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A cultural complicity in violence against women : Comments

By Tasman Bain, published 2/9/2014

Violence against women is both enabled and perpetuated by a culture that maintains a spectrum of sexism and misogyny, from the subtle and casual to the violent and extreme.

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Tasman, if you want to be taken seriously by real people, a little advice.

A few less appeals to authority would help. You particularly should not start with an appeal to some monkey in a high rise in Brussels, making a killing as the boss of the most corrupt & indeed useless organisation on earth.

You see most of the public have lost all respect for academia, & organisations like the UN. We have come to the painful recognition that they are mainly just a waste of space & money. Certainly so many articles full of nothing but padding, such as this one do nothing to change that perception.

Can't a bright chap like you find something more useful to do?
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 12:09:03 PM
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Good stuff.
I would suggest that those who doubt that there is any real evidence for what Tasman has written get in touch with Ken Lay who is the head of the Victorian police force. In recent times he has made some very passionate public disclosures re the epidemic of violence against women that is occurring on a daily basis - especially domestic violence.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 12:30:07 PM
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Thank you for this article. The previous comments are pretty typical of people who appear to have no empathy or understanding of themselves or how a culture creates peoples treatment each other.

The man that complained that he earned money only to give it to thankless women could perhaps think about sharing work so that women did not need to be dependent on him or any man. That would mean that he could work less and also have the joy of caring for others that his time spent at work precludes.

Perhaps all the authors of the previous posts could imagine creating a culture where every one is respected - including children, the elderly, sick, poor and the vulnerable. Then when they become vulnerable - as we all do at some stage - then they could be treated with kindness and respect too.

The men that see no wrong with the culture and even imagine it doesn't exist as it is just 'nature' are like fish that do not know they are swimming in water - it is invisible to them.
Posted by lillian, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 12:58:04 PM
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Instead of asking us, Daffy Duck...

>>I would suggest that those who doubt that there is any real evidence for what Tasman has written get in touch with Ken Lay who is the head of the Victorian police force<<

Would it not be more appropriate - given that much of the criticism here is the lack of real content in the article - to make this suggestion to the author?

Your point would then have been supportive of the need previously identified by posters here, for more information and less rhetoric.

Evidence, rather than grandstanding. You know the sort of thing.
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 1:00:39 PM
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I'm sorry, while I can agree in principle, with ending forever all violence against women, I just don't buy that it is cultural, when only around 4% of males, are it seems, involved in this activity.
Having said that, I don't believe AVO's are worth the paper they're written on, unless properly enforced, and by the armed response units for repeat recidivist offenders!?
Love is like a red red rose and must be nurtured by small acts of kindness; or just remembering to say thank when receiving same!
Open the door, buy her a rose, take her out for a meal she didn't have to cook!
Just don't expect you can pretend to love someone just to get good sex, or free sex.
Women will be just great in bed, if they really want sex.
But not when they're just laying there thinking of mother England!
The Irish have a saying, a woman happy in bed is a woman happily wed. True when first penned then and now!
Moreover there ought to be a name and shame file, that is at the very least, distributed to all nearby real estate agents/landlords/motel hotel managers, who could become legally complicit, if found to be providing any accommodation to/for problematic posted people?
Who simply do not have the right to beat up on women!
I don't care what she's done. Get a punching bag and punch the p-ss and pick handles out of that
Take a stroll around the block and cool down!
In truth spats are often over the smallest most insignificant, it just doesn't matter, she went out without permission, things!
Be a real man, kiss and make up, or love her and leave her!
That's the only acceptable options; and as low as my regard for lower than a snakes belly, wife beaters is; it is far lower for cowards who cower behind them as virtual human shields, while perpetrating unthinkable stone age, knuckle dragging neanderthal atrocities!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 1:08:23 PM
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lillian, I've refrained from commenting so far (all seems pretty pointless) but your claims of a lack of empathy deserve comment. I can't speak for those who have posted so far but for myself the lack of empathy and understanding seems to mostly sit with those pushing the gendered view of DV.

The ones who will go on and on about wanting DV stopped whilst franticly resisting any examination of the factors that contibute to it or any examination of violence against men and when the facts get to overwhelming go back to the bodycount for women being higher so we should not do anything about the rest.

The author (and most others pushing a gendered view of DV) completly ignored DV against men. Plenty if evidence around (which has been discussed at length here) showing that lower level physical DV is initiated at least as often if not more often by women. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that the more serious injury to women in DV situations tend to occur where there is mutual violence.

The author ignores contributing factors which many suspect lead to a proportion of the extreme cases of DV. Whilst its no excuse for the violence the role of the massively unfair family law/child support scheme should be examined by those with an concern for stopping high end DV, instead its surrounded by a wall of secrecy. People pushed to the brink seemingly with no hope will not always react well.

Those counting bodies and spouting strong beliefs in male privilege seem to have little interest in male suicide rates, far higher incarceration rates, shorter life expectancies etc. In any other group those would be warning signs of disadvantage but not when it comes to gender wars.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 1:29:51 PM
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