LEGO,

"....however much we would like to save the world from itself, some nations are not worth the trouble."

Which is code for "they don't possess anything we want/need" - or - "they're too well defended for us to invade".

There you have it....so "altruism" is the banner headline, but rarely the reason for invasion.

"A war in time saves nine."

Can you tell me how that applies to the debacle that now constitutes Iraq?

I have been concerned for some time about LEGO! He or she seems to have been put together out of lego parts. I really don't care about that! It's his brain that worries me.

His comments are stilted, devoid of real understanding and balance common to most humans (look at the two above and you'll see what I mean). It's like his brain was created by a mad scientist out of obsolete computers and bits of video material plus snippets of Rupert's ramblings.

Where is his humanity?

P.S. LEGOMAN doesn't respond to appeals to his better nature. Then what could you expect from a LEGO-ROBOT?

Hullo Mr Squeers.

I see that you are another whining lefty who thinks he is intellectually and morally superior to the Great Unwashed, and who hates the western world he chooses to live in. You got a "progressive" education and watched AVATAR and now you how the world works?

If you had ever picked up a history book, you would have discovered that every single advanced nation since the year dot has engaged in Imperial expansion. That is the way that nations were built. If it had not happened, every nation on planet earth would still be at the tribal stage. Whether you like it or not, civilisation has spread on the point of a sword. Many advanced civilisations were entirely rapacious while others were benign. The British Empire was the greatest civilising force that the world had ever seen and many of it's former colonies are reverting back to barbarism. Iraq appears to be a case in point.

I love how you hate your own civilisation. I can only assume that many of the "western" Jihadis now fighting for the caliphate went to the same school that you did and listened to the same western hating nonsense. No wonder they think that the west is evil.

I used to be a trendy lefty myself when I was young and stupid. But gradually I began to realise that people with your self loathing views simply despise their own people. So I began to think objectively instead of simply parroting the left wing party line. I hope that you can manage that feat also, but I have my doubts

LEGO,

"..... The British Empire was the greatest civilising force that the world had ever seen and many of it's former colonies are reverting back to barbarism. Iraq appears to be a case in point."

Hohoho!...and when did the great unravelling begin?

Perhaps around the time that the Coalition of the Willing bombed the infrastructure and stability out of it, sometime in 2003...

"I love how you hate your own civilisation. I can only assume that many of the "western" Jihadis now fighting for the caliphate went to the same school that you did and listened to the same western hating nonsense."

What a load of tosh....

"You got a "progressive" education and watched AVATAR and now you how the world works?"

Lol!, LEGO thinks Squeers is a naive young whippersnapper...should be fun to watch the continuing conversation.

Not much to ensue I'm afraid, Poirot; there's very little incentive to go on arguing with a fool who twists and turns in such contortionate and contradictory coils of logic, all the while spitting venom.
It was you, LEGO, who protested the West's moral hesitancy against stealing, which in the next breath you defend as the rationale of history. I don't demur, though one might hope that given our blessedly 'enlightened' state we might now look to proceed by more civilised means.
But beyond mass delusion we are only civilised in terms of appearances and public and international relations, diplomacy greasing the wheels of the unrelenting 'progress' of Western civilization, whose sole cause and purpose, no more and no less, is to turn a profit.
You accuse me both of being a 'lefty' and of despising 'the great unwashed'; are not the leftists the populists? The truth is it is and has always been the conservatives and the libertarians who despise the masses (supposing the designation has any validity) in favour of a deluded ideal of unbridled ambition and power.
It's testament to Abbott's iron stomach that he can invoke 'team Australia' without discharging its contents over the necessity of cultivating the rude support of the bulk of wastrels and good for nothings he surveys. Hockey at least reveals his true loathing for the masses with his spontaneous songs of joy and unguarded asides.
And just as Abbott don's his ghastly grin for the faithful he despises, he sidles at the flank of the US in the hope of enjoying its favour and protection, with never a thought for right and wrong, or the moral cost and degradation of spirit endured by us all.

Squeers, your last paragraph on Abbott is so true, that is exactly as I see him. In other words a pain in the ( for a better word ) rectum.