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Governor Underwood was always undeterred : Comments
By Max Atkinson, published 20/8/2014Most readers will be aware of his efforts, in successive Anzac Day speeches, to remind us of the need to honour those who gave their lives by reflecting, not just on their courage and sacrifice, but on the need to minimise the risk of future wars.
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Posted by Killarney, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 12:32:57 PM
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The proposal seems to be encapsulated by Peace Research Centre* which is a very good idea if it prevents the Abbott Government from sending the troops to even one manufactured Keep the Australian Defence Force Busy Zone.
Currently Abbott is a hair-trigger away from sending the troops back to Iraq and it was the Ukraine two weeks ago. The reason? With all the attendant opportunities for Tony being photographed with Uniforms and talking tough he gains in Leadership Approval Polls with every mention of: More War by Danger Man Abbott. Pete * note there was a Peace Research Centre at ANU some years ago, but it really became a highly technical Nuclear Disarmament studies centre. Its current shape is "Centre for Nuclear Non-Proliferation and Disarmament (CNND)" ANU. See https://cnnd.crawford.anu.edu.au/ Pete Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 12:43:21 PM
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Yes Max and I a peace lover automatically agree with you.
However, you need to convince those who create all wars. Isil, Hamas, Hitler, Idi Amin, Pol Pot; and well, it's a very long list and my words as always, are limited on this site! Now, you need to hop on a plane Max, and just get in President Putin's pink shell like! And keep at it until he draws back from Ukraine's borders, hands back annexed territory; and stops assisting terrorists and lawless rebels, rebels who just don't have a just cause! And if you survive that or aren't confined in some Siberian Gulag? Well just hop over to the middle East, and get Hamas to, sue for peace and stop firing all those pesky antipersonnel rockets, that sane men have no choice but to respond to, with overwhelming force, if that's the only way this madness can be ended. Then it only a short hop step and jump to Syria and its moribund miscreant moronic leader! Convince him to stop the genocide, and step down: and you will do more for peace prospects, that a million such articles, or simply preaching to the converted. And once you finished winning over the Syrian dictator; and not hanging by your unmentionables, in some Syrian hell hole? Well Iraq is then even closer! And there you could try your luck with Isil, they are waiting for you, razor sharp swords being even honed to a even finer edge! Get your unique powers of very powerful persuasion into action; and preferably before they and a few others, manage to start WW111! And good luck with all that! Remain calm, and just don't lose your head Max! It seriously limits cognitive activity. Anyone can organize a feel good march in our streets Max! Or even completely disregard the sacrifice and service of others, Max! Even those tens of thousands, who made the ultimate sacrifice, and just so you and all others, remained free to voice their opinions! Even at oft times, highly offensive ones! Rhrosty. Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 12:45:27 PM
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Yeah Rhrosty
Count Australia into every war that's going. As Parliamentarians said in Britain. Britain had the option of "tossing a proverbial grenade in the burning building that is Syria" but decided not to. Syria is where war is the most deadly so Australia should toss grenades for Syria. Here's a Recruitment Commercial just for you http://youtu.be/PnRQjCIdmA4 I'm joining for the danger money :) Cheers Pete Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 1:21:22 PM
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Yeah Pete old mate.
Why don't we toss that proverbial grenade, and just hasten the process, by around a century!? The proverbial grenade being (a) nuclear bomb(s), and the desert sands being turned into volcanic glass. The Pentagon, I was once told, has hundreds of what if scenarios, and that "tossed grenade", is reportedly, just one. And justified as it was in Japan, as the lessor of several evils. Those that think that I approve of any of this or war, need to visit Hiroshima, and the remembrance shrine there. Where records tell us, in the first few seconds, 45,000 humans, were instantly vaporized out of existence! Another 150,000 were wiped out in a matter of weeks, from the radioactive fallout; and some 300,000 non combatant civilians, ultimately paid with their lives, for this terrible evil! Justified in a shortening of a war, that could have gone on for years, at even greater loss of life, and counted in the millions, such was the Japanese resolve? And if there's any human blood in the veins, the most moving experience you or anyone else could ever experience! At the end of the day, nobody but nobody wins at war. The victorious allies, lost millions and mountains of treasure, and for what? Just to simply eliminate the madness, free the innocent, and finally end the millions of innocent lives wasted, as so-called collateral damage? Most of the former service men and women I know, are the most ardent peace warriors, and rightly so, given ordinary soldiers are the only ones traditionally expected to fight all our wars/die or be sent into harm's way! All we can ever do, is shorten the action and or, minimize the total casualties, and then, by any means necessary! It strikes me. we still hold huge inventories of nuclear weapons, and some "Leader", will likely have to use one or two; and probably in the endlessly troubled and exponentially increasingly volatile M.E.? Before the rest of the world finally gives up these truly terrible weapons, and turns this nuclear material, into peaceful civilian power! Rhrosty. Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 3:47:06 PM
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by Danger Man Abbott.
yeah plantagenet I am sure if we had Chritine Milne as PM we would have tens of thousands more Hamas and Isis supporters waving the flag in Sydney suburbs which might thrill your heart but no one elses. A day will come when u rue your stupidity. Posted by runner, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 4:14:21 PM
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Dear oh dear, Rhrosty. Ain't it exhausting being the good guys? So many evil demons to vanquish. So little time!
Posted by Killarney, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 5:49:37 PM
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Dear runner (aka Danger Man Abbott)
But what if Prime Minister Milne disagreed with my plans for: - your elevation to Pope? - nuclear reactors for needy South Australia? - nuclear powered submarines for our underprivilged Navy? and - nuclear weapons for Gay couples from Hamas and ISIS? Pete (seeking your divine guidance) Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 6:08:05 PM
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Pete & Max, I have no doubt we can avoid war without wasting another hundred million on a talk fest for useless & almost unemployable academics.
Stick a bunch of academics in a room & you have yet another group as useless, & almost as costly as the United Nations. It can only be made worse if they are law academic, whose only real interests, I have found, are money, & reinforcing their exclusive, & very profitable, control of our legal system. Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 8:02:53 PM
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It makes one proud to know that the money that will no longer be going to young unemployed people and the money saved by forcing old people to work longer will be redirected into yet another Navel-Gazing Institute for the Terminally Poppy-Whipped.