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Muslim communities must face up to bad apples : Comments

By Tanveer Ahmed, published 15/8/2014

This is outlined by Danish psychologist Nicolai Sennell's groundbreaking work visiting Muslim criminals in jail, where he makes reference to the Arab notion of 'holy anger', which is completely foreign to English.

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G'dayBruce, writes

'It seems to me that Islam is going through a similar process to Christianity in the Middle Ages '

just like the unborn are going through a similar process as those being headed thanks to secularism.
Posted by runner, Friday, 15 August 2014 3:14:51 PM
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OTB,
Thanks for posting that release from the DIAC. I have been looking for further comment.

I still await comments from the current Minister and more about the allegations made by the Fairfax press.

It concerns me that other media outlets have not taken up the issues and as to why there is not comment from the Opposition. My guess is that all are trying to be a small target, after all the allegations are very scathing and occurred over many years that we know of.

In relation to Islam, We have a muslim problem, the world has a muslim problem. Someone said the muslims are going through the same situation as Christianity did in the Middle Ages. I am not sure about that but it seems to me we should stop all muslim immigration until the muslims sort themselves out. This must be done for the safety and well being of our citizens.

What will it take for our politicians to confront the reality that muslims will never integrate into our society.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 15 August 2014 3:40:13 PM
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Tanveer Ahmed, as a psychiatrist and Indian-Muslim-Australian is to be commended for an excellent article that a non-Muslim wouldn't even attempt due to accusations of anti-Muslimism and racism.

I'm surprised as to WHY so many of the Lebanese, that Ahmed identifies, came to Australia and then settled in one part of Sydney.

Was it Inshallah or the will of Labor Party electorate stackers?
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 15 August 2014 3:41:51 PM
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otb,

Foxy stands by her posting record and her
posting record on the Catholic Church and Sexual
Abuse is crytal clear.

"No one is denying that
sexual abuse of children is horrendous and
intolerable and the the failure of the church to
deal with it efectively has done immeasurable damage
to victims. The cover-ups, the protection of abusive
clergy and the refusal to admit egregious mistakes
are unjustifiable..."

However, regarding the question of Islamic fundamentalism
and extremisim - that's a different issue alltogether.
Not all Muslims are fundamentalists or extremists.
And to infer they are is simply wrong. As the following
link explains:

http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2012/05/02/3493640.htm
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 15 August 2014 4:38:33 PM
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G'dayBruce, writes

'It seems to me that Islam is going through a similar process to Christianity in the Middle Ages '

There has been no change in Islam since its founding in the 7th century.
It started its history as a violent anti Jewish religion and has gone
on up to the present day in the same vein.
The Koran tells them that they have to spread Islam by submission or
the sword.
The Koran cannot be reinterpreted. It is rigid and unchanged.
This is the crux of the matter. Any negotiations are merely for
short time advantage. The Koran is quite specific about that.
I am no expert reader of it but I have read those particular paragraphs.

Hamas demonstrates that, for once honestly, no agreement with them
can accept a permanent existence of Israel. Mohammad made that clear
right at the very beginning of his campaign against the Jewish towns
near Arabia.

The Jews have had thousands of years experience of Islam and they
know that any compromise is only temporary and Islam has not changed
its fundamental aim.

Richard the Lionheart learnt that to his cost.
The wars that started in the 7th century by a band of brigands
still continues.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 15 August 2014 4:50:47 PM
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Dear Plantagenet,

You ask why Lebanese tend to live in the one place?
So do the Vietnamese, the Chinese, the Greeks,
Italians, and so on.

Australian reseach has concluded (Dawkins, P., et al,
(1991) "Flow of immigrants..." Canberra, AGPS) that the
larger the existing stock of immigrants and the more
recently arrived they are, the more such immigrants are
likely to regroup and re-settle at places of residence
influenced by friends and family. They tend to join their
own communities there.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 15 August 2014 4:50:48 PM
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