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The climate change refugees are coming! : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 15/8/2014

This isn't science, and it isn't good journalism. But it is a good example of juvenile special pleading.

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I find it very interesting Agronomist, that tax payer funded research literature can find sea level rise, when people living in one place on Sydney harbor & Morton bay know that a 2 meter spring tide is not as high today, as a 2 meter spring high tide was 80 years ago.

They try to hide that the tide mark on Fort Denison shows no change in sea level in over a couple of centuries.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 16 August 2014 12:48:29 PM
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Very interesting Hasbeen.

You know I find it really interesting that in a world apparently in the grip of global cooling, all these towns report record high temperatures. I always wondered how that worked.

Keep up the good work.
Posted by Agronomist, Saturday, 16 August 2014 1:00:19 PM
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Where I live the highest tide in memory was in 1967. No other has come anywhere near it since. Those mountaintops in the pacific could simply be setting somewhat. I mean the seabed is not as stable as the stupidity of some environmentalists. Could there be any money in predicting land subsidence perhaps ?
Let's wait & see. Tuvalu meanwhile should build infrastructure farther back from the beach.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 16 August 2014 2:21:33 PM
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Shallow thinking covers lack of compassion. Even blind Freddie and his dog know the danger times in these small pacific countries occurs when high tide plus sea level rise plus storm surge occur at the same time. And storm surges and sea level rise are increasing with time.
Posted by Tony153, Sunday, 17 August 2014 9:57:05 AM
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A bit of fact checking.
The calculated rate of sea level from observations since 1950 is 5.1mm per year for Tuvalu and global sea level rise is actually accelerating.

Sea level in the pacific can vary by up to half a meter depending on whether the climate is going through an El Nino or a La Nina.

Tuvalu is protected from erosion by coral reefs, which are very sensitive to high sea temperatures preferred range (23C-29C) Sea temperature in the area now only occasionally fall below 29C and are mostly closer to 32C

Coral is also very sensitive to small changes in pH levels which can severely restrict their ability to build their skeletons. Increasing levels of CO2 have already impacted on pH levels.

There is evidence to suggest that pacific storms are becoming more powerful due to climate change.

Conclusion once the coral is gone there is virtually no chance Tuvalu will be habitable and this is likely to happen in less than 50 years time.
Posted by warmair, Sunday, 17 August 2014 11:25:37 AM
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As scientists estimate that we should commence severe climate reduction measures NOW so we may (or may not) make a difference in 200 years* time - we should do so.

The prospect of the rest of Tuvaluans moving to New Zealand is beyond discussion as this is an issue of morality and faith.

Kevin said so.
Posted by plantagenet, Sunday, 17 August 2014 11:39:55 AM
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