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Abortion breast cancer link explodes in Asia : Comments

By Joel Brind, published 12/8/2014

The Huang meta-analysis also showed a clear dose effect, i.e., women with two or more abortions showed a risk increase of 76%, and those with three or more abortions showed a risk increase of 89%.

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Agree with a very commonsense Mayan. If there is a plausible endoctrinal/hormone related link, then surely it can be mediated/medicated?
And if there is a still to be established, actually establishable scientific link, then surely better contraception, would prevent these same problems arising, i.e., condoms/the pill or failing that, the morning after pill that simply delays ovulation while any sperm remains viable!
And a far less dangerous procedure, than later medical intervention, that may even still s beating human heart!
And only allowable for strictly solid evidence based medical harm reasons; like late term tissue rejection, that can only ever result in a dead mother and a dead baby, if the pregnancy is not then terminated, etc!
And then should we caution the mother, about possible abortion related links to breast cancer?
Perhaps a moralizing Senator (Pardon, Pulpit pounding Parson) Abetz would?
Or perhaps display some long overdue moderation, and simply limit himself to another sermon from the mount, replete with a very big basket of fish and bread!? (They do that well down in tiny Tassie don't they?) (Albeit, I was very sick the last time I ate Tasmanian Trout!)
Or would that merely mean, his sermonizing, would be accompanied by an obnoxious fishy smell?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 11:28:28 AM
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Congratulations to Professor Brind for challenging the status quo of the medical establishment who appear to be more committed to protecting the status of "safe abortion" than the health or lives of the mothers, let alone their fetuses. The endocrinological explanation of why abortion increases risk is that during pregnancy under the influence of the pregnancy hormone, estradiol, the number of immature Type l and Type 2 cells increase in the mother's breast, these are vulnerable to cancer, and these do not mature into stable Type 3 and 4 cells until after 32 weeks gestation. This is why childless women have a higher risk of breast cancer than those who have children.
An early miscarriage will usually not increase risk because the hormones have not risen greatly. In fact Swiss researchers were able to identify back in 1976 with a simple blood test at 8 weeks gestation which pregnancies were likely to miscarry. However, a miscarriage caused by an accident or blow to the abdomen or in the second trimester of pregnancy will increase breast cancer risk, as will a premature birth under 32 weeks gestation.
Posted by Gadfly42, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 11:28:31 AM
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Hey, Susieonline: Please tell me your religious affiliation, in some detail, please. I must insist on ignoring whatever you say until I can judge you and your comments on the basis of your religion. Enough said.
Posted by Prof. Brind, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 12:17:28 PM
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Isn't breast cancer also said to be more evident in women who don't have children or have them later in life?

Too easy, just marry them off as children and allow some old bugger impregnate them when they are first capable of conceiving. No contraception. No terminations.

Maybe that could become the case in the eventual Tribal Oz. One of those unexpected negative consequences of the endless diversification-we-are-required-to-have.

As interesting as the epidemiological finding is that there could be a link between abortion and breast cancer, such higher risk is likely to be very much lower than the other risks of an ordinary healthy pregnancy, particularly where the mother was not in the best situation for it.

In any event, scaring the hell out of women is not so ethical is it? There needs to be some sober weighting, balance and alternatives. Otherwise the publication of research such as it is, can be dismissed as alarmist and probably misleading.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 12:17:38 PM
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@onthebeach:

"...publication of research such as it is, can be dismissed as alarmist and probably misleading."

Since it is an unconfirmed statistical outlier, has been rejected by the peak professional bodies, has not been published in a quality peer reviewed journal and comes from someone who has a reputation as being biased due to his religious beliefs, it's also fair to say that it is also untrustworthy, unreliable, unprofessional and not worth considering.

Oh, yes. I have no religious beliefs. No need for the professor to ask.

Next week: "Does too much sex make your eyes go funny?"
Posted by JohnBennetts, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 12:53:26 PM
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Mr. Blind, my beliefs have nothing to do with scientific data, and neither should yours.

Leave religion out of the science lab until it can be scientifically proven there are actually any gods out there.

Why not work on more effective contraception methods to lower the abortion rate?
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 1:27:45 PM
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