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Jews condemned whilst Christians are decimated and dispersed : Comments

By David Singer, published 5/8/2014

In much of Iraq and Syria today, millions of Christians, whose ancestral presence there pre-dates current Muslim majorities by centuries, are being scrubbed out of their homes.

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Fanatical Islam is killing everyone in its path and blowing up shrines and erasing communities in an attempt to rewrite history.
Fanatical Judaism is killing everyone it its path and blowing up shrines and erasing communities in an attempt to rewrite history.
Be proud, oh you denizens of the Middle East. What a tremendous force for good, what a shinning example of something better, are you, the Children of Abraham!
Posted by halduell, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 8:31:30 AM
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Look to the mote in thine own eye is all I have to say to this piece of childishness.
Posted by mikk, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:13:28 AM
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Well, while I can agree some of the things the Jews are doing, makes them look little better than baby killing SS storm troopers, with their so called crimes, beaten up for all they're worth by a Hamas!
A terrorist organisation that just wants to eliminate them, by any means possible!
Immutable faith as firm as concrete, can never ever make something true!
No matter how rigid the belief system!
Not a flat earth at the centre of the universe; not a world just six thousand years old; not a Moses led exodus from Egypt by a whole enslaved race; and not a promised land handed to them by the very hand of a vengeful God!
A God who carved words into tablets of stone, for a race that could neither read nor write!
But rather, land won by killing those who already owned it!
And again as history repeating itself, in this same God's name!
Even Jewish archaeologists are now calling into question, some of these long held as factual truth, Myths and mythology, by adherents/believers, given what the irrefutable relevant archaeological record is saying.
Namely, that there was no exodus!
That being so, how much of their other beliefs are founded on a complete falsehood or MAN MADE MYTH also!?
The older least revised version of the Koran, does not give God's permission to kill, rape or loot, but expressly forbids it, along with bearing false witness, that eliminates, i.e., a less than compliant wife!
Nowhere is it written that one group can judge and then stone, or put to death another!
And Jihad is only ever an internal struggle against one's own internal demons, and just not holy sanctioned war against another race, or other members of the book!
Be they Jew, Christian or Muslim!
I would welcome peace lovers to this vast empty land as peacefully cohabiting new migrants.
But never those who cannot forgive and forget the past; or indeed, the part they may have played in it, and based on a huge lie!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:15:51 AM
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"Israel meanwhile ensures that Jews will never find themselves in the same boat as the abandoned and hapless Christians."

Yes, unfortunately Jews adopted the morally bankrupt ideology of Zionism as 'prptection', so now the Palestinians are abandoned and helpless.
Posted by mac, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 11:03:33 AM
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The appeasement of Islam, the hatred for Christ and the King of the Jews makes the secular humanist blind to the fact that their actions won't save them in the end. They take the high moral ground while blasting Israel simply to cover their own godless lifestyles. The leftist media are experts at this.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 11:24:22 AM
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I doubt the final conclusion of this latest rant by Mr Singer.
"Israel meanwhile ensures that Jews will never find themselves in the same boat as the abandoned and hapless Christians."
It could as easily be argued that the extreme actions of Zionism have ensured that the Jews of Israel will eventually find themselves as abandoned and hapless as their Christian brethren in Mosul and elsewhere.
Already the world's press has begun to question uncritical support of all things Israeli. Following the Holocaust, Israel was established with most of the world lined up behind it in unquestioning good will. They (Israel) have squandered that good will, and many are now questioning the Frankenstate they previously supported.
Posted by halduell, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 11:41:10 AM
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Mikk whines: "Look to the mote in thine own eye ..."

It is preciously because we have heard/learnt/deconstructed NOTHING BUT the motes in our own eye, that deluded souls like NC & Hadi and McAdam can blather on as if team Islam embodies all that is good and pure --it is long overdue to talk about the huge mote in Islams eye.

The only question is whether people like Mikk have any principles?
Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 11:41:45 AM
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Sigh, more balderdash and hyperbole from Singer.

“In much of Iraq and Syria today, millions of Christians, whose ancestral presence there pre-dates current Muslim majorities by centuries, are being scrubbed out of their homes.”

Millions? There aren't even 2 million Christians in the whole of Iraq and Syria combined.

One suspects, with very valid reasons, that the main thrust of singer's article is to try and take the spotlight off the war crimes being committed by Israelis in Gaza and the West Bank.

Look at the scores of Mosques targeted and blown apart by the IDF in Gaza supposedly because they contained weaponry or tunnels.

There was a time when another peoples seeking nationhood engaged in exactly the same behaviour.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bb1_1191106989

Did the British authorities blow up the Grand Synagogue of Tel Aviv on this occasion or on innumerable others when weaponry or bombs were found in other locations? No. This is a particular level of savagery reserved for the IDF.

The issue of religious discrimination in other countries is of course of deep concern and should be discussed. But under the auspices of David Singer it is purely a distraction from the barbarity of the mass killing of a beleaguered and blighted people in the Gaza Strip by the government of Israel.

Dear runner,

You wrote “take the high moral ground while blasting Israel”.

'Blasting'?

My god are you really that unthinking. While Israel blasts children's bodies apart, blasts UN refuges, blasts homes and mosques, blasts ambulances and blasts entire families to smithereens you are trying to make the case that Israel is getting blasted?

You my friend are totally displaced from reality with such a warped sense of right and wrong that can only come from either a fundamentalist or an ardent nationalist and we all know what breed you are.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 12:11:24 PM
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Mr Singer has certainly aroused some well worded, passionate responses against this latest effort.

It is not surprising, given the factual, intellectual and moral vacuum which underpins this particular article.

Yes, I know that attacking the author is bad form, but what is the choice? Isn't the Middle East facing enough problems already, without more argument from those who seek to defend the indefensible.

How empty is the claim that Israel needs to be protected from the people that they have overpowered militarily many times, from whom they have stolen lands and resources, whose children they target, whose meagre infrastructure and homes they pound to dust? All this is not because it is good, necessary or right. It is done because it can be done.

Sorry, Mr Singer, but there can be no moral or other high ground for a tribe, by whatever name, that acts in this manner in the 21st century. The puny efforts of the dispossessed and oppressed in the face of Israel's might is no justification for brutality on this scale.
Posted by JohnBennetts, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 1:36:02 PM
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SteeleRedux

your anti semintic rants in disguise of your 'love ' of the Palestinians illustrates my points so well. No concern for the masses of people being killed in Iraq, Syria, Nigeria and where ever else Islam gets the opportunity. Instead defend and join in the propaganda war for Hamas as they use kids as fodder to win sympathy from the anti semetics. You forget that your appeasement for your own propoganda purposes will not result in you not being labelled an infidel. Pathetic.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 1:51:33 PM
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Has everyone forgotten that Left Wing politics and terrorism go hand in hand and that in the 1970's we saw European Leftists actually hijacking planes and murdering people for the cause of Palestinian liberation?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 2:29:03 PM
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JoM, have you forgotten the Irish terrorists in the longstanding 'troubles' between the Christians in Northern Ireland and England? I doubt this will ever end really.

I think we can safely say that it is humans in general who have violent tendencies, regardless of religion, culture or race.

most violence has been committed in the name of religion...so let's ban religion!
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 2:42:26 PM
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runner,

Some people don't buy the Zionist propaganda lie that brave little Israel is on the front line defending the West from the Islamic hordes. Do you ever wonder what the ME would be like without Israel's continuous expansion and America's interference in support of the Zionist predator?
Sometimes our enemy's enemy isn't a friend.
Posted by mac, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 2:49:10 PM
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What a perfectly odd little article. The complaint is of no media look at the plight of Christians in war torn Middle East, but then Singer proceeds to quote no less than 7 different news sources.

The plight of Christians and all minorities, this includes whichever is the minority Islamic version, is in indescribable danger in large swathes of the Middle East and Africa. Perhaps Australia should increase their refugee intake to assist in the plight of some of these people.

Incidentally, there were more than a million Christians living in Iraq while Saddam Hussein was the dictator there. Since being 'liberated' by the USA and the coalition of the willing this number has more than halved.

Is the author implying because there are atrocities happening elsewhere, there is no need to look at what is happening in Gaza? Why?
Posted by yvonne, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 3:58:33 PM
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@Yvonne,

<<Incidentally, there were more than a million Christians living in Iraq while Saddam Hussein was the dictator there. Since being 'liberated' by the USA and the coalition of the willing this number has more than halved>>

Yes dear (to borrow from your address to Hasbeen on another thread) Saddam for all his faults kept the Imans & Mullahs & their henchmen in check.

<<Is the author implying because there are atrocities happening elsewhere, there is no need to look at what is happening in Gaza/>>

No dear,more the case of after 2000 threads exposing Zionism or American imperialism it was about time we had an espose on Islam.
Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 4:06:37 PM
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Suse,
The IRA were Marxist and Eire is a socialist country, the "troubles" were political in origin, not religious.
Just because a rebel force is drawn from one ethnic or religious group doesn't make it a religious group, were the PFLP a Muslim group? Are Shining Path a Catholic group? Are the Naxalites Hindu?

Wahabism is a political movement exported by Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia is a Zionist entity therefore Hamas, Islamic Jihad, ISIS and all the other splinter groups are a part of the Zionist programme to put pressure on Iran and secure Israeli control of the natural resources in central Asia and North Africa.
The biggest falsehood promoted by the Left is the idea that Israel is a client of the U.S, the complete opposite is true, the U.S, like Saudi Arabia is a client state of Israel.
Anyone with eyes to see knows the truth, it's only stupid Leftists and dopey Muslims who can't understand what's going on.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 4:22:43 PM
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It is not about Gaza, It is not about Isreal. It is about Jews.

"Israel meanwhile ensures that Jews will never find themselves in the same boat as the abandoned and hapless Christians." Good.
Posted by Prompete, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 4:30:50 PM
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Runner, you identify yourself as a Christian time and time again on this forum. How does being a Christian preclude one from having left/progressive politics? It seems so in your part of the world. The Christians I know, I'm not one, who I admire, take to heart the lessons of Jesus Christ and daily try to live their lives according to his tenets. And are generally speaking rather 'left wing'. Jesus Christ was not a conservative. Those were the Pharisees.

And you are aware that the Jewish faith denies the existence of Jesus Christ, but Islam reveres both Mary and Jesus Christ?
Posted by yvonne, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 5:50:37 PM
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Latest reports seem to indicate ISIS now has control of a dam that supplies the 8 million residents of Bagdad with drinking water.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/08/03/Islamic-States-captures-Iraqi-town-and-nearby-oil-field-.html

By controlling that dam, ISIS could cut off water to Bagdad, or flood Bagdad.

This is now a real test for other Middle East countries, whether they are prepared to see a group such as ISIS endanger the lives of millions of people.
Posted by Incomuicardo, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 7:08:14 PM
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SteeleRedux,

Well said. You pointed out two of David's favourite strategies: exaggeration and diversion (with an aim of obfuscation).

yvonne,

"The complaint is of no media look at the plight of Christians in war torn Middle East, but then Singer proceeds to quote no less than 7 different news sources."

I'm torn between two explanations for this: 1. David knows nobody believes a word he says so he uses other peoples words or 2. he is suggesting something so outrageous he doesn't want to put it in his own words. Let me give a brief synopsis of his argument to explain my second point:

1. Israel pushed Washington to arm an insurgency in Syria in the name of democracy. A divided, war-torn weakened Syria is good for Israel.

2.Christians lived peacefully for 2000 years alongside their Jewish and Muslim brethren. That was until Israel was created.

3.Christian Zionists and Jewish Zionists in the US support Israel's expansionism and pogroms against the Palestinians for 60 years. They prod the US into two wars against Muslim states at great cost the the US in terms of blood, gold and prestige.

4. After destroying two states in the name of Israel's best interests (a divided and weakened Iraq is much better than the bitter enemy Saddam was...for Israel of course) and thereby creating fertile ground for extremism to flourish. When extremism does flourish..

5. David acts surprised, justifies continued pogroms (according to wiki 91 Jews were killed on Kristallnacht which is nothing compared to the latest Israeli rampage in Palestine) and says at least Jews will be safe and won't be abandoned like Christians. Like it's their fault or...ours.

Singer does all this by using other quotes!

Jewish groups feel entitled to give out awards for 'righteous Gentiles' Perhaps it's time for Palestinian groups to start giving out awards to 'Righteous Jews'. While they're at it they might give Singer the 'Chemical Ali Award for Grandiose Delusions'.
Posted by dane, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 8:40:30 PM
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Yvonne. Jews recognise the existence of Jesus as documented by the Roman historian Josephus. he was in fact a I Jew.
Posted by Prompete, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 8:50:51 PM
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yvonne

'And you are aware that the Jewish faith denies the existence of Jesus Christ, but Islam reveres both Mary and Jesus Christ? '

Islam rejects the Lord Jesus Christ as the Son of God. They say that He is only a prophet and that it wasn't Him who died on the cross.

How does being a Christian preclude one from having left/progressive politics?

In regards to Israel, yes they by and large they have and did reject Jesus as Son of God. They accused Him of blasphemy. They have paid a high price for their hard heartedness. Most of the Jews today are actually secular. The covenant that Israel has with God however is still in place. When the Messiah does return they will realise how blinded that they have been.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 9:38:37 PM
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Dane
I think you mean "Comical Ali", Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf was the wisecracking Iraqi information minister, "Chemical Ali", Ali Hassan al-Majid really was a murdering thug who ran Saddam's secret police and paramilitary goon squads.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:06:20 PM
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Dear Suse,

<<most violence has been committed in the name of religion...so let's ban religion!>>

Imagine that most violence was committed by men who pretend to be women - would that justify banning womanhood?
Imagine that most violence was committed by people who pretend to be nurses - would that justify banning nurses?

So why should this be different when violence is committed by people who pretend to be religious?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:21:38 PM
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Jay,

I think you're right. Easy to get the two mixed up when it comes to Singer.
Posted by dane, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 1:02:09 AM
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Yuyitsu , I agree!
Most certainly those who use war and commit murder in the name of their god can't really be peaceful religious people can they?

It seems to me that the Israelis and the Palestinians have had this longstanding feud over some land, and they both feel it is their god-given right to have this land and both sides seem to think that killing each other will bring them the land.

Whatever happened to "Thou shalt not kill"?
What a waste of life.
Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 1:55:19 AM
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I'm reading that Hamas was created by Israel to replace the PLO and ISIS was also created by the USA/Israel.Problem ,reaction and they provide the solution.

Unbridled usury creates absolute power.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 7:24:51 AM
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Dane,

<<Christians lived peacefully for 2000 years alongside their Jewish and Muslim brethren. That was until Israel was created>>

Please don't embarrass yourself any more --read a bit more widely.You are writing total fantasy.
Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 9:12:27 AM
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Dear Suse,

<<It seems to me that the Israelis and the Palestinians have had this longstanding feud over some land, and they both feel it is their god-given right to have this land and both sides seem to think that killing each other will bring them the land.>>

Yes, almost: I would change both 'the' into 'some'.

SOME Israelis and SOME Palestinians feel it is their god-given right to have this land. The others, actually the slim majority on both sides, just want to live their lives peacefully and have no interest to grab the others' lands. However, ordinary Israelis and ordinary Palestinians are between a rock and a hard place, fearing the violence of the other side while unable to shake off the violence of their own respective Jewish and Islamic Hamas.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 11:01:40 AM
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Spqr,
Im only going by what ive heard Hasidim say in protests against Israel. The reference was only to the ME and North Africa obviously not Europe. If I can find the link to I'll post it.

I would say it's you who should be embarrassed but there's no point. People like you have no shame and feel no embarrassment.
Posted by dane, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 4:25:47 PM
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Dane,

<<Im only going by what ive heard Hasidim say in protests against Israel. The reference was only to the ME and North Africa obviously not Europe>>

It aint true of ANYWHERE!

Hasidim is probably reading from the halal version of history.
Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 5:31:05 PM
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More vitriolic drivel from avowed Jew-haters - with scant concern for the ethnic and religious cleansing being carried out against Christians by Islamic Jihadists.

#SteeleRedux:

You state:

"Sigh, more balderdash and hyperbole from Singer.

“In much of Iraq and Syria today, millions of Christians, whose ancestral presence there pre-dates current Muslim majorities by centuries, are being scrubbed out of their homes.”

That was the author's statement you quoted - not mine - confirming
your reputation for being deceptive and misleading.

You continue:

"Millions? There aren't even 2 million Christians in the whole of Iraq and Syria combined."

How many Christians are there according to you? 500000? 1000000? Fill us in with a link to your source.

"Look at the scores of Mosques targeted and blown apart by the IDF in Gaza supposedly because they contained weaponry or tunnels."

Supposedly?

Look at this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWkjwfkh-qM

"The issue of religious discrimination in other countries is of course of deep concern and should be discussed."

Then discuss it here and now or tell me where you have discussed it.

7000 people who rallied in Sydney last Saturday would appreciate hearing from you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb-2IgfWdc4

BTW Where is the reply you promised last week?

#yvonne

You are a newcomer to my loyal followers on OLO. You share their same inability to comprehend what I have written.

You state:

"The complaint is of no media look at the plight of Christians in war torn Middle East, but then Singer proceeds to quote no less than 7 different news sources."

This is what I actually said:

"Patrick Coburn does not mince his words in The Independent:

It is the greatest mass flight of Christians in the Middle East since the Armenian massacres and the expulsion of Christians from Turkey during and after the First World War.

Yet the media shows little interest in exposing the decimation and dispersal of the Christian communities in Syria and Iraq.

Google reports on the Israel-Gaza war outnumber reports on the ISIS-Christian conflict by about 20:1."

If you are going to stay around - please read my articles carefully before misrepresenting me.
Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 5:58:57 PM
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SPQR, Dane,

Actually, there were periods in history when Muslims were far more tolerant of Jews than contemporary Christian societies, Muslim Spain, Baghdad's 'Golden Age" and during the Ottoman Empire for example. Many Orthodox Christians preferred Ottoman rule to government by their Catholic co-religionists. Of course there were also periods of persecution of Jews and Christians by their Moslem overlords.
The most sustained and effective campaign of anti-Semitism in Spain was carried out by Catholics after the Reconquista.
Posted by mac, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 7:04:40 PM
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Hi Mac,
Good to see your around.

The original proposition was : <<2.Christians lived peacefully for 2000 years alongside their Jewish and Muslim brethren. That was until Israel was created. >>

Note the period stipulated was <<for 2000 years>>

1) I have no doubt that there were periods of bliss but no where near that imagined.

2)The "golden period" in Spain was no where near as "golden" as some still want to believe.

3) Yes. Some Christians actually welcome the Islamic invaders. Egypt for example initially saw them as liberators. They later come to regret that--big time.

It is a pity that on those rare occasions when their is any serious deconstruction of Islamic history it always seems to get deflected by some who want to make it an anti-Israel or anti-Christian thing--and as a result Islam gets a free get out of jail (or court) card
Posted by SPQR, Thursday, 7 August 2014 6:08:47 AM
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Spqr,
Profound aplogies for over-generalizing. Next time, I'll make sure I list all the exceptions over the entire 2000 years period I'm talking about.

David,
I hope you consider me one of your 'followers'. If I'm ever feeling down I can always rely on you for a good laugh.
Posted by dane, Thursday, 7 August 2014 6:27:37 AM
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Mac,
Thanks for taking the time to explain some of the nuonces to spqr. He doesn't cope well if things aren't explained clearly enough.

Spqr,
Btw. When you say the haridim read the halal version of history, you are referring to the group of people who have been seen as repository for for Jewish theology through the centuries? You know the ones with the dreadies who wear old fashioned hats? I can provide more info about haridim if you're not sure who I mean.
Posted by dane, Thursday, 7 August 2014 6:34:12 AM
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Dane,
You obviously have an issue with Jews/Israelis and I am not buying into that.

I just hope that you do not allow it to blind you to Islam's pretty heinous acts.

Cheers
Posted by SPQR, Thursday, 7 August 2014 3:21:58 PM
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Israel claims to be defending themselves by killing innocents but Hamas fires rockets in the hope that the innocents will protect them. Neither is innocent however the Palestinians can still stay in their own lands. Isis is creating the new Holocaust killing anyone who is not of their religion. The expulsion of the Christians from Mosel and the taking of their assets as they left should have been a wake up call to the West. Our leaders, if they are not willing to intervene should at least show humanitarian concern and immediately agree to accept many of these people into the country as refugees. They are the true refugees as their lives are in danger and they are forced out by ultimatum, not the many people who leave the country of their own volition, most of whom are economic refugees, with apologies to the few true political refugees who lives are in immediate danger from the regime.
Posted by hospas, Friday, 8 August 2014 10:30:29 AM
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The Israelis only have to look over their borders and see what is happening to other non Muslim minorities living under Islam to realise what would have happened to them if they had been beaten in any of the Muslim perpetrated wears to end their existence.

Christian people all over the world can now see Islam for what it is, and can understand why the Israelis shoot back at the people who are determined to exterminate them.

Most Muslims live in shocking poverty without any hope of a better future other than going to a better place when they die. Couple that belief with a ideology which promises the best afterlife to those who kill non Muslims to expand Islam and it is hardly surprising that Muslim minorities are a danger to any people who live near them.

The importation of Muslims into western countries by ignorant socialists obsessed with the idea that all people are equal has become a social catastrophe and a source of future conflict. The 150 "Australian" terrorists now fighting for our Muslim enemies have a perfect right to return to Australia if they are Australian citizens. It has been estimated that it will cost the Australian taxpayer 7 million dollars a year per terrorist to watch these people continuously so that they can not commit terrorist acts here.

All this cou8ld have been avoided if we had only imported people into this country who shared our core values for personnel freedom, democracy, freedom of speech, female equality, and secular government
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 9 August 2014 3:54:24 AM
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It is interesting to note Singer is flying in the face of the nightly news which shows the brutality of the Jews who are armed to the teeth by the U.S. and the Palestinians who have no navy, army or air force.

The casualties show which side is committing genocide against Palestinian civilians, men, women and children.

When is the world going to step in and stop Israeli war crimes using American arms?
Posted by David G, Sunday, 10 August 2014 12:40:02 PM
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#David G

What about putting aside your well-known Jew-hating credentials for a moment and showing some caring concern for Christians who are being decimated and dispersed by Moslem Jihadists as raised by me in my article?

In case you don't believe me - then read this:

http://aclj.org/radical-islam/isis-caliphate-is-evil-incarnate
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 10 August 2014 3:31:01 PM
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Just as well CNN wasn't around in WW2 so that the world could watch the bombing of Germany by the RAF and the US 5th Army Air Force, or David G would be saying the same things about those poor Nazi civilians and how "heartless" the Allies were

He could say that since the Luftwaffe which started the war by bombing civilians in undefended cities was by 1943 unable to effectively bomb London and Coventry, the Allied bombing of German cities was "disproportional."

If the Arab Nazis want to stop the Israelis from shooting back them, David G, tell them to stop shooting rockets over the border.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 5:02:04 AM
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This interview by Alan Jones with Iraqi Christian Association Leader in Australia Dr I Naoum on 12 August highlights the ethnic and religious cleansing being visited on Iraqui Christians by their IS Islamic oppressors.
http://www.2gb.com/article/alan-jones-dr-intesar-naoum#.U-lJtPmSwlI
Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 9:45:01 AM
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Readers might like to watch and listen and then comment on this plea made in the Iraqi Parliament on 5 August 2014

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Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 5:30:08 PM
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Dear dane,

We can thank Jewish literature for so many examples of the Israel/Gaza conflict in both folklore and history. David and Goliath, the siege of Masda, the Warsaw ghetto uprisings, all battles against intolerably superior forces.

I think history will write a version of this struggle that will in no way resemble the narrative being propagated through the majority of Western media, aided and abetted by the likes of MEMRI TV

“The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) ... was co-founded in 1998 by Yigal Carmon, a former Israeli military intelligence officer and Meyrav Wurmser, an Israeli-born, American political scientist. MEMRI states that its goal is to "bridge the language gap that exists between the Middle East and the West". Critics charge that it aims to portray the Arab and Muslim world in a negative light, through the production and dissemination of inaccurate translations and by selectively translating views of extremists while deemphasizing or ignoring mainstream opinions.”
Wikipedia

Their distortions are well known as I have already discussed with Singer.

Dear David Singer,

Mate, you are looking a bit lonely so I'll bite.

Thank you for the link. A passionate plea from this Yazidi Iraqi MP Vian Dakhil for her people to be saved from the latest mob religious zealots to run amok. She also speaks of Shiites, Sunnis, Christians, Turkmens and the Shabak people who are all under threat from this lot of butchers. I know you would like to keep this thing a Christian-Islam thing since painting Muslims as butchers, particularly against Christians which are the largest donor/support group to Israel but you can't.

As for me apparently misquoting you all I did was take the words from the front page of OLO. Since you have disowned them I accept they are not yours but probably should have been in quotation marks to avoid confusion.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 10:28:49 PM
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Steelredux may have a point, David Singer.

All of the ethnic cleansing and genocide by Muslims occurring in the past and occurring before our eyes on our TV screens today could all be Jewish propaganda.

I say this because everybody on planet Earth knows that the Muslims have a reputation for tolerance towards minorities.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 6:46:54 AM
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#SteeleRedux

Again you act deceptively in suggesting the MEMRI translation may be incorrect - but offer no proof that it is.

You also omit the sources mentioned in your Wikipedia link that praise MEMRI - such as Tom Friedman, Brit Hume, John Lloyd and Jay Nordlinger.

You state:

" Thank you for the link. A passionate plea from this Yazidi Iraqi MP Vian Dakhil for her people to be saved from the latest mob religious zealots to run amok. She also speaks of Shiites, Sunnis, Christians, Turkmens and the Shabak people who are all under threat from this lot of butchers. I know you would like to keep this thing a Christian-Islam thing since painting Muslims as butchers, particularly against Christians which are the largest donor/support group to Israel but you can't."

Your snide imputation as to my motives in bringing the plight of the Christians to public notice is absolutely rejected.

The Yazidis are another non-Moslem group being oppressed by Moslems

You would have to be blind to not see that Moslem has been killing Moslem in Syria, Libya, Gaza, Yemen,Algeria and Egypt and that IS is doing the same in Iraq.

Moslems certainly have a problem with their fellow Moslems. Stopping them senselessly killing each other in constant suicide attacks in markets and severing their heads off in sect v sect confrontations are the clearest cases of a madness and barbarism that defies explanation.

Christians have however become an endangered species - being deliberately targeted and forced to leave their homes and possessions to save their lives if they do not convert to Islam or pay a special tax.

I am still waiting for the response you promised almost two weeks ago.

At least you had the good grace to withdraw one misrepresentation.

Perhaps you might like to withdraw your snide imputation referred to above.
Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 8:41:45 PM
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LEGO,

The reason Muslims have a reputation for intolerance towards minorities, is because they are indeed, brutally intolerant towards minorities.
Do you really doubt that religious minorities who survived for centuries in the ME are now being systematically annihilated by ISIL or by some other cult of Islamic psychopaths? There are many reports from reputable news organisations of the genocide now being committed in Iraq and Syria.
Posted by mac, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 9:37:18 PM
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You haven't been reading my posts Mac or you would see the sarcasm.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 17 August 2014 8:03:07 PM
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