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Shh! Ladies, no laughing! : Comments

By Andee Jones, published 4/8/2014

It is easy to forget that not until the twentieth century was the mother’s equal genetic contribution to the child understood, and even then only among the educated classes.

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Jardine, David f,

Let me help you out here: the human mitochondrial genome accounts for 0.0005 percent of the total human genetic information. I think it helps to state the actual figures; then readers can make up their own minds about how much weight an argument carries.
Posted by willies, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 2:06:02 AM
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Doubtless this wasn't the 'roaring' Helen Reddy applauded in her, "I am woman, hear me roar",

<Rise of the female 'relationship terrorists': Study finds women are more controlling and aggressive towards their partners than men

Quote: Study leader Dr Elizabeth Bates said: ‘The stereotypical popular view is still one of dominant control by men. That does occur but research over the last ten to 15 years has highlighted the fact that women are controlling and aggressive in relationships too.’ She said scientists may have to think again about the reasons for male violence against women, which previous studies said arose from ‘patriarchal values’ in which men are motivated to seek to control women’s behaviour, using violence if necessary. She said other research also looked at men in prisons and women in refuges, rather than typical members of the public.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2669408/Rise-female-relationship-terrorists-Study-finds-women-controlling-aggressive-partners-men.html

"Daily Mail
26 June 2014

Rise of the female 'relationship terrorists': Study finds women are more controlling and aggressive towards their partners than men
By Emine Sinmaz and Sarah Griffiths

- Psychologists found more women are verbally or physically abusive to partner

- Within partner relationships, women are just as controlling as men

- It suggests 'intimate partner violence' may not be motivated by patriarchal values, as previously thought

Convention has it that women are the gentler sex.

But when it comes to relationships they are more likely than men to be controlling and aggressive, a study claims.

Increasing numbers of women can now be classed as ‘intimate terrorists’, meaning that they are verbally and physically violent towards a partner.

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The analysis showed that, while women tended to be more physically aggressive towards their partners, men were more likely to show violence towards members of the same sex, including friends.>
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 2:54:23 PM
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Fascinating, the number of really anti-women posters. All these violent women. Yet, a woman a week still dies at the hand of her male partner. If this many persons, of whatever gender, died because of some flu or whatnot there would be a panic and an outcry for the government to do something.

The anti-feminists make me laugh. They actually have a public voice BECAUSE of feminism. Perhaps they should just keep quiet and let the men do the talking, instead of sticking it to other women.

Plantagenet, is it only a woman's role to woo and please? What about a man's? Just because he's put a ring on her finger, he shouldn't think that he's 'got her'. She also can look around and appreciate a man who notices her and gives her attention.... while he's at the office with the 'girls', who knows what she's up to!
Posted by yvonne, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 6:23:36 PM
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Dear willies,

Thank you for that. The small contribution of the mitochondria is enough to show that the statement that each parent contributes half the genetic material is wrong.

On the average we men are simply bigger, physically stronger and, in my opinion, more aggressive than women. To the best of my knowledge there are no battered men shelters, and I don't think there will be any need for them. Let's not kid ourselves.
Posted by david f, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 6:52:21 PM
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yvonne, "Yet, a woman a week still dies at the hand of her male partner"

Did you read the interesting interchange in the reader replies? Referring to the UK, but has relevance to your comment,

<kerry69, cramlington,
2 women are killed by their husband or partner every week. How many men are killed each week by their loved one? I rest my case.

Steve 909, Sheffield, United Kingdom,
"2 women are killed by their husband or partner every week. How many men are killed each week by their loved one? I rest my case". You haven't made a case, you simply alluded to an invalid premise, "that women don't kill their partners." For every three women killed by there partners, two men are. That's 3:2, to put it in numeric terms for you. Every Western Government has carried out research into I.P.V. and the Absolute Truth is that women perpetrate half of all I.P.V and in some cases even more, and what is more, is that that research is there for EVERYONE to read, so educate ourselves. The alternative is ignorance, and ignorance is safe harbour for abuse to flourish, thus creating more abuse and miserable lives FOR PEOPLE!>
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 7:44:41 PM
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Killarney
I suspect the rapid transition of early Christianity from egalitarianism to a pattern of subjugating women owed as much to Greco-Roman culture as to Judaism. The sexist, conservative morality of the Pseudo-Pauline letters seem closely patterned on “household codes” common in that culture.

http://www.jcu.edu/Bible/408/Readings/HouseholdCodes.htm

I agree that the church in its early expression had much more diversity including significant roles for women in some places and times. That diversity is returning, both as churches such as the Anglicans accept female leadership, and through geographical spread – more than half of the world’s Christians now live in South America, Asia or Africa, and their numbers are growing while Christianity is shrinking in its traditional centres.

Feminist theologians are exploring the contributions of women to the church over the centuries, and the way these have been suppressed. It’s a story even many non-believers find interesting.

Suseonline
Thanks for your comments. Anyone entering the fray on a forum like this must expect to have their beliefs challenged, and I enjoy your contributions, even when we disagree!
Posted by Rhian, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 8:00:49 PM
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