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'Safe Schools' scandal: open letter to the education minister : Comments

By David van Gend, published 29/7/2014

In one large study comparing a thousand homosexual and heterosexual adults in the UK, published in the British Journal of Psychiatry in 2003, the researchers found no increase in bullying of gay men compared to heterosexual men.

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arhh some more of the christ-stain love at work. Ectively you say gay bullying doesn't happen and then proced to bully gays!

Why can't you understand that even if being homosexual was a choice it is still exceptable between consenting adults.
Hell believing in a sugar daddy in the sky is oaky as long as you then don't think it gives you the right to force other people to live by your rules.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 1:10:51 PM
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oh by the way even bringing up Dr Jeffrey Satinover makes your arguement invalid. The bible code author really.....
Posted by Cobber the hound, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 1:18:05 PM
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Bah, the gay community doesn't want to hear anything that contradicts their story, and victim status.
The simple fact is that homosexuality is NOT normal, it's an aberration, and while we can't blame gays for being that it doesn't automatically follow that we should promote their life-choices.
Pity them? Yes.
But not for their alleged victim-hood, only for their inability to enjoy a normal life and family.Bullying is a normal human behaviour, unpleasant but entirely genetic, and children experiment with it the same as they experiment with everything, get over it.
Posted by G'dayBruce, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 2:09:33 PM
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"Get over it" what? The daily stigma, ridicule, bashing and even murder.
GdayBruce live one day in a gay persons shoes, then we will be interested in your experience, other than your continuing antigay comments
Posted by Kipp, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 4:53:49 PM
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"Continuing"?
Bah.
Unlike the soft-hearted, soft-headed attention grabbers that rule the gay discussion, I know and share my life with various gay people of various genders who just get on with their lives, they're not victims, they're not whingers or poseurs, they're just hard working ordinary people who happen to be gay.
I'm not anti gay, I'm anti whingers, anti the professional victims that sour the entire discussion of gay or feminist issues, they DO NOT represent the majority of the gay community, or women, the silent majority who, like my family and friends, do not make an issue of their sexuality and thence it doesn't become one for them.
Posted by G'dayBruce, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 8:01:51 PM
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thanks David. Very refreshing to hear some truth on this issue.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 8:45:00 PM
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G-day Bruce,

What do the homosexual people you share you life with say when you call them "aberrations" and tell them you "pity them". Or perhaps you are too much of a coward to say this to their face?

Also, how many times per week do you have sex with your partner? Percentage of time missionary? Just wondering if you were "normal" too?
Posted by Stezza, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 11:13:35 PM
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Excellent exposition by the author.
Regrettably, Christopher Pyne has succumbed to the bullying of the homosexual lobby .
The 'lobby' successfully counters any querying of the homosexual lifestyle by crying 'homophobia' . So much so, that the media lack the backbone to fearlessly analyse and report on the active homosexual lifestyle, which the lobby deceptively portrays as 'normal '.
The lobby has mastered the art of using homophobia labelling as a bullying lever , such that many politicians are bullied into accepting and promoting whatever the lobby demands -- in this case, promotion of the socalled 'Safe Schools ' programs.
Christopher Pyne, Australia deserves better.
Posted by Raycom, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 11:32:57 PM
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Dear Raycom,

<<Regrettably, Christopher Pyne has succumbed to the bullying of the homosexual lobby.>>

It's not a homosexual lobby - it's public "servants" who are happy to use any pretext for increasing their ranks and drawing more of our tax money.

Bullying is a problem for everyone, but from what I hear, homosexual boys today are the most popular and liked by the other boys and girls in their class - perhaps because they are not perceived as sexual predators by the girls or as competitors by the boys.

Any identification is harmful, including sexual or gender identification, so schools should rather discourage it - but what can one expect when schools are state-funded and thus preach for national identity?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 12:53:45 AM
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Yuyutsu,
Yep, that's exactly the case, boys who identify as "Gay" are automatically part of the in crowd in my daughter's age group and they're less likely to be bullied.
Bullies target people who have poor peer and parental support networks, I know because I used to be a bully at school in the 1980's. We had one flamboyantly Gay kid named David in our year at high school and at lunchtime he sort of drifted between a group of girls who had staked out a spot on the lawn and the quadrangle where we "roughs" used to hang out.
Bear in mind we weren't the footy playing tough guys who sat outside the canteen with all the prettiest girls, we were the weedy, long haired heavy metal listening weirdos who only had access to the second tier girls sitting on the lawn with David.
David was our friend because he was big, he was funny, he could fight and apart from being a link to the girls on the lawn he had two very tough older brothers who we looked up to.
It's the same story now with my daughter and her friends, the gregarious outgoing Gay friend is the link to the boys they like and he has cooler, older siblings as well.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 4:05:32 PM
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Can we continue to reshape our curriculum for all students to prefer to one group over another? This commentary sheds light on what has become education; all the while this goes on, there is a ban on other activities in school free time that is frankly bullying by discrimination. How did school become infiltrated by social doctrine which preferences sexual orientation? For those at the top, our children deserve better quality teaching on life skills than what is on offer right now.
Posted by Longy, Thursday, 31 July 2014 9:39:44 AM
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