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People you don't want to hear from : Comments

By Babette Francis, published 25/7/2014

An email circulated from what looked like an atheists boot camp recommended that their supporters send fake requests for registrations for our WCF Event and not turn up, thus wasting precious seating.

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Gadfly You accuse others of racism and then call people from "Third World countries" "little brown and yellow men. Wow.
Posted by Helga, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 4:12:44 AM
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Helga, my thoughts exactly!

Gadfly, are you suggesting that only the medical scientists from developed countries are feminists then?
The ones from third world countries must all think like you then?
How on earth would you know?

As I said, no point talking about it until the mad theory is proved and accepted world-wide...... no matter what skin colours all the scientists have.

Cheers,
Suse.
Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 7:46:37 PM
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Dear Helga,
Don't you appreciate sardonic humour when it is in front of your eyes? My comment about little brown and yellow men was a reflection on SusieOnline's assertion she only trusted Australian websites on the Abortion-Breast Cancer link. What possible reason could she have for such an assertion when the Chinese, Indian etc. studies have been published in open-access scientific journals?
One reason why some studies do not show an Abortion-Breast Cancer link is because the researchers either deliberately or unknowingly included spontaneous miscarriages with induced abortions. Most miscarriages in the first trimester do not increase breast cancer risk because the hormone levels do not rise high enough to maintain the pregnancy or stimulate breast cell growth. However, second trimester miscarriages will increase breast cancer risk, as was admitted in the famous Danish Melbye study which was touted as denying the Abortion-Breast Cancer Link.

Gadfly
Posted by Gadfly42, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 11:52:02 PM
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Excuse me Gadfly, I didn't know you were a medical scientist?
Where on earth did you get your notion that women who have first trimester miscarriages don't have the same level of hormones as those who have abortions in the first trimester?
And let's be honest here, the vast majority of both induced and spontaneous abortion occur in the first trimester.

That is something very hard to prove, given that these miscarriages are not planned and thus no pre-miscarriage hormone levels can be tested unless they have an incomplete spontaneous abortion.

In any case, I fail to see how this mad push for an abortion/breast cancer link to be found will in any way affect any woman's decision whether to have an abortion or not.

If all the stronger theories as to how breast cancer is caused, such as obesity, alcohol and smoking, do not effect changes in women's behaviour, then this little 'theory' has no chance...
It's far better to concentrate on contraceptives as a way to reduce unwanted pregnancies.
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 31 July 2014 1:20:02 AM
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Gadfly I thought your entire post was an attempt at humor. What are your feelings on shooting abortion clinic doctors and nurses as a good way to stop breast cancers in women who have terminations in the second trimester?
Posted by Helga, Thursday, 31 July 2014 10:42:01 PM
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The pro-life movement does not condone shooting of abortion providers as a means of reducing abortions. It may have the effect of temporarily reducing abortions for a matter of days but longt-term it has little effect. The pro-life movement wants to make women aware of the physical and psychatric side-effects of abortions as a means of reducing the number of abortions. Education is better than shooting.
Posted by Gadfly42, Thursday, 31 July 2014 10:52:21 PM
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