Ant firefighters no matter what nationality are not experts in climate science.

Dear Chas,

Some sanity may be on the horizon, at least in the UK.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10944629/BBC-staff-told-to-stop-inviting-cranks-on-to-science-programmes.html

imajulianutter, you say "Ant firefighters no matter what nationality are not experts in climate science" .
Climate change deniers obviously don't have any knowledge in climate change either. I happen to believe the specialists. Each denier has more combined knowledge than Marine Scientists, Physicists, Glaciologists, Biologists, Atmospheric Scientists, etc etc.

Firies do have views of the length of wildfire seasons, the intensity of fires and a whole lot more data in relation to fires which fits into what climate scientists are saying. At the Climate Change demonstrations earlier this year Firies gave the same address at each place that demonstrations took place. Deniers clearly have more knowledge than Professional Fire Fights also.

Well Jon I am a conservative. I believe it is well worth trying to maintain the natural world the way it is. This means not altering the composition of the atmosphere on a punt that it won’t have any effect. The fact is if we want to keep the planet the way it has been for 1000s of years, we had better stop pouring vast amounts of GHGs into the atmosphere.
The idea that just one nation can’t make a difference is wrong, someone has to lead the way, without leadership nothing gets done. Nor is the idea that moving to a low carbon economy going to send a nation into bankruptcy. On the other hand the economic consequences of doing nothing are dire.
See the Stern report:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern_Review
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“The Stern Review's main conclusion is that the benefits of strong, early action on climate change far outweigh the costs of not acting.”

It is extremely foolish to ignore scientific advice just because it does not suit ones political views.

And even more good news;

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/07/solar-has-won-even-if-coal-were-free-to-burn-power-stations-couldnt-compete?CMP=fb_gu

Yup, electricity prices in Queensland went into negative territory again but this time in the middle of a busy day.

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“Negative pricing” moves, as they are known, are not uncommon. But they are only supposed to happen at night, when most of the population is mostly asleep, demand is down, and operators of coal fired generators are reluctant to switch off. So they pay others to pick up their output.

That's not supposed to happen at lunchtime. Daytime prices are supposed to reflect higher demand, when people are awake, office building are in use, factories are in production. That's when fossil fuel generators would normally be making most of their money.
The influx of rooftop solar has turned this model on its head. There is 1,100MW of it on more than 350,000 buildings in Queensland alone (3,400MW on 1.2m buildings across the country). It is producing electricity just at the time that coal generators used to make hay (while the sun shines).

The impact has been so profound, and wholesale prices pushed down so low, that few coal generators in Australia made a profit last year. Hardly any are making a profit this year. State-owned generators like Stanwell are specifically blaming rooftop solar.

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@JohnBennetts: Have you ever read WattsUpWithThat? If you have you will know that it takes its stories from a variety of sources, both pro and anti the Anthropogenic Global Warming theory. It's a convenient clearing-house for all kinds of data, not a 'source' in itself. If you want to trace the article I referenced back to its original source you can do so through the links provided in the article.

Whether you agree with AGW theory or not, I hope you can see it is absurd to close your mind to material relating to it, merely on the basis of where it happens to be published. That's the attitude of a religious believer, not a genuine seeker after truth.