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How do Harris's moral flaws affect the value of his ouevre? : Comments

By Brendan O'Reilly, published 7/7/2014

There are many others, including founder of the boy scouts Baden-Powell, Field Marshall Montgomery, and authors J M Barrie and Charles Dodgson (Lewis Carroll), who were also believed to have had had an unhealthy interest in children.

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Runner, we know you would prefer that women were seen, but not heard, but that will never happen.
We have dragged ourselves out of the shadows of men, despite people like you kicking and screaming :)
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:26:28 AM
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individual,

I see you've transferred your grubby tactics over to this thread.

I did relate an experience in the other thread that happened when I was ten. I also stated that it happened once - and further stated that I stopped a second incidence (you appear to read only what you want to) I also related that I felt shamed, powerless and not inclined to confide in an adult - and that for most of the years since (until now) inclined to keep it to myself.

This is what you said to me in reply:

"Btw, did you end up getting your stepfather locked up or wasn't he famous enough ?"

Posters here can judge you on that response.

Aside from the fact that you spent the entirety of that "long" thread attempting in "every post" to mitigate Harris's culpability in his own demise...none more telling than the quote that SteeleRedux has included here...that Harris's victims...

" “just led him on until they realised money could be made by stitching a bloke up.”

You have zero - zilch credibility on this matter.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:49:04 AM
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im hearing/if you knew suzie/like eye knew suzie
so thats the clue sue has much to say

and that more than once some old perves hand needs be firmly moved

/the sick\show signs of recovery sue?
or how about how nurses /have experience with kids private space

ie sue its a change to educate/how kids need their privacy
need the ability to imagine in innocence

or even the young child brids with prolaps
sue here is the time to fight back/with fact/

some poor kids get ripped appart
so much related to this topic sue
just from your work/talking now can help fix it sooner*

make us cry
demand to know why/by what right get indignant*
this is the time before the news cycle moves on
and oppertuinities to end the uncertainty are gone
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:50:33 AM
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Harris crossed a social line and the previously valued childlike naivety, spontaneity and innocence of his paintings that were valued one suspects by people who wouldn't recognise decent art if they fell over it, are now seen as artifice and fraud.

His music is also very superficial, no deeper sentiment or meaning at all and often just silly, also fails to impress for similar good reason.

Popular art varies enormously in price because the public who buy it are fickle. They buy the image presented by marketers who sell fairy floss and call it nutrition.

This article contains some obvious, fatal, logical flaws. The problem with online opinion, speaking in the broader sense and not just commenting on the OLO site is that there is usually no editor to sort the wheat from the chaff even at the most basic level. We must put our faith in freedom of speech and the usual good sense of the public to sort what the editors previously did for them.

The public see Harris as a grub and there is concern that serious offenders like him can easily use the power of their privileged positions in society to cover their tracks and avoid accountability for years, and sometimes for life. Victims and whistleblowers who do come forward are threatened and maybe even punished into silence. How does that work and what are the remedies? That is not a subject that is receiving attention, but it should be. We don't need more laws. That is just politicians papering over cracks.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 12:05:56 PM
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You are right Oneundergod, I have seen and heard far more than ever I wanted to in the course of my work.
The thankfully few times I have had much to do with Psychiatric wards, one thing I noticed on almost every mentally ill patient's file was that they had been sexually abused as kids. They have then suffered a lifetime of mental illness.

I have also worked on paediatric wards and seen the dreadful physical damage done to children's genitals and anus's after sexual abuse by adults in their lives.
The mental problems were to follow.

I have had to deal with little boys and girls who screamed in terror when they saw any adult male nearby, and try to explain this terror to baffled male staff members who were every bit as wonderful nurses as any of the female nurses.

I have had to deal with very traumatised adults, including the elderly, who still relate their horror stories of sexual abuse when they were children , because they feel safe telling this to a nurse.

So yes, I hate any child sexual abuse, and the disgusting paedophiles of any age , who have at any time in their lives, abused children of any age.
I don't care who they are, or what they painted, they all should be treated the same...
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 7:54:05 PM
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tHANKS-SUE.[for keeping te filth yOU SEE DAY CLEAN]

the problem is its all so pErvasivE
for example religion/which we both detest/often speaks of age disparity/old holy men getting a child[im just now witnessing it on tv
[the 'grea spirit/it seems wants a mate[in this canadian fable[and young rough face[clearly a 'girl'..'get the prize
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=great+rough+face+spirit&i

and thats the problem/with kiddy sexaulisATION
[LIKE DESING KIDS SEXY/its just plain insane
but even worse is being that reject that plain-jane/or ugly like that kiddy fiddeler so no woman 'wants them'..ITS HARD TO GET AWAY/FROM this youth adoration cult
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 5:00:39 PM
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