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Football, fighting and feminism: some traps for men today : Comments

By Peter West, published 4/7/2014

No thanks, men are not confused, as many journalists like to suggest. It's just hard at times to know what to say, without being attacked by someone.

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Rhrosty, yep, they've said it all because all Feminism has to offer is misanthropy, paranoia and envy.
Feminists, like Bolsheviks, Fascists and Jihadis are nihilistic revolutionaries, they can't save the world without destroying it first.
Feminism like the other movements I've named cannot exist without the coercive powers of the state, it's monopoly on the use of force and it's mercenaries.
The opposite of Feminism isn't "Patriarchy" or "Masculinism" it's Liberty, Truth and Honour.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 5 July 2014 1:10:51 PM
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In a choir:
The choirmaster keeps insisting on the need for balance. Mens and women's voices must be heard.
No one of them must dominate.

Together wonderful music is made.

What we aren't hearing much is anyone with a sense of how men and women work together to make a harmonious society. How could we have a world without men?

Or without women?
It can't be imagined.
Posted by Bronte, Saturday, 5 July 2014 3:26:54 PM
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Bronte, it can be imagined. It would be sterile.

Polarisation is what marks all 'causes'. Tolerance is what marks community.

I must tweet that @wine in verse .com
Posted by imajulianutter, Saturday, 5 July 2014 5:26:33 PM
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To all of my six followers.
Posted by imajulianutter, Saturday, 5 July 2014 5:29:26 PM
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Bronte,
Men and women naturally compliment each other and work in harmony, it's unnatural, inorganic entities like the state which throw things out of whack.
That said, entities like states, aristocracies and social classes exist for the benefit of a select few families, not a select few male or female individuals.
Feminism to me doesn't represent women, the fact is that there are as many male Feminists as there are female and most Feminists are in heterosexual relationships and have children. In the Australian monarchy of 2014 Feminism represents the values and spiritual beliefs binding a caste of families, a "Soft" aristocracy or the bourgeoisie, call it what you will.
People like Killarney and myself are outsiders looking in, for whatever reason she's disdainful of family life and I, though I'm married and a father have no capacity to assimilate the necessary values or principles by which I could integrate into such a caste.
Summing up, small f Feminism is associated with wealth, status, privilege and the middle class, Radical Feminism is a nihilistic outsider tendency expressing envy and misanthropy while non the Feminist families and individuals who make up the bulk of society are simply considered to be "below the salt" and assume the role of the peasantry or the subaltern.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 5 July 2014 5:36:01 PM
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Killarney still plays the narrative well: It's all men's fault, even the misery of men is the fault of men.

Again, the narrative can be tured on its head. Men legislated women out of work because women convinced men they were to be protected from work. The same with war and every other event they were excluded from; women convinced men that they were to do all the dirty work while women lazed around at home.

See how easy it is to create narratives. All you have to do is assign motivation in a subtle way and repeat it over and over while playing on peoples' emotions and prejudices.
Posted by Aristocrat, Sunday, 6 July 2014 8:26:45 PM
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