Killarney repeats the narrative well: Men = bad, the cause of all ills; women = good, innocent beings corrupted by the evil male.

One can turn her narrative on its head. Women sent men off to work for them, off to wars to die for them, slaved away at all tasks for them, pay more tax for them, all the while women live a comfortable homely existence, free of worry, free of work, free of war. What coniving creatures they are!

aristocrat

[Men = privileged] does not translate to [Men = bad] although I would translate posts like yours to [Men = tedious].

A few historical corrections. Women did not send men off to work for them. Men passed laws down through the centuries to force women out of all trades and professions other than menial domestic work. Ditto combat. Women did not send men off to wars to die for them. Rich men sent mostly poor men off to fight wars for rich men’s interests, and most men took some kind of masochistic pleasure in fighting wars – and still do – because of the heroic cultural status attached to serving one’s country.

And if this was all such an imposition on men, why have they been fiercely resisting women moving into the workforce and moving up career ladders and why do they still fiercely resist women in armed combat and make life hell for women who enlist in the military?

And what tasks do they ‘slave away’ at for women – giving up work for years to play unpaid nursemaid to a house full of snotty-faced babies and toddlers? Cleaning, cooking, shopping? Mowing, gardening and changing tap washers are hardly slave labour, and in most households, women do those tasks anyway – either that, or turn into professional nags.

Also, your point about tax is wide of the mark. Married men with dependents have always paid less tax than single men.

And spare me the lecture about men going down the mines and digging ditches. I know women who have tried to get that sort of work because it paid good money and have been resoundly knocked back. Conversely, how many women’s-work jobs do men turn their noses up at because it’s too girly and beneath them?

Karen Straughan: talk at the IMCI 2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA-QP1gSYJA#t=388

Feminism is a set of conspiracy theories, lies and half truths and it's primary motivating emotions are envy and hatred, Killarney didn't get invited to the school dance, that's why she's a Feminist.

Well, I can add nothing to this debate, as Imajulianutter and cogent, coherent Killarney, have between them, said it all!
Rhrosty.

<Today’s feminism teaches women to see themselves as victims and men as perverts, bullies and misogynists, says Natasha Devon

Earlier this year I was asked to present at a feminist society event in one of the UK’s largest and most prestigious universities. I espoused the view that I must be really lucky, because if recent feminist musings in the press and online are to be believed, misogyny is absolutely rife, yet I have very rarely encountered it.

I’ve had the odd blustering huffer-puffer over the years who has clearly thought himself superior, but I’ve always presumed that’s because of my comparative age and slightly avant garde fashion sense, rather than the simple fact of my vagina. (Whilst it isn’t right to form assumptions about someone based on these criteria, it does take the issue out of the realms of feminism.) These instances have, however, been incredibly few and far between. As for the men I regularly spend time with – my male colleagues and friends, boyfriend, dad, my three brothers and numerous uncles and cousins – they’ve never given me any cause to suspect they’re anything but pro-gender equality.

At the end of the session, one of the Society’s senior members said: “It’s great that you don’t think there’s any misogyny in your world, but I think if you talked to these men for long enough you’d find there were some pretty sinister ideas about women buried somewhere beneath the surface.”

In that moment, I suddenly realised why so many aspects of the modern feminist movement in Britain irritate me so much.>
tbc..

contd..
<Don’t misunderstand, I’d consider myself a feminist and I’m all for structural changes which ensure equal treatment of the sexes – the types that are working to ensure we have an equal number of female MPs and laws to prevent female genital mutilation, for example. But cultural “feminist” changes, the types that insist lads mags, Page 3 and wolf-whistling are automatically offensive and should therefore be scrapped from the public consciousness, I have always struggled to comprehend. For, at their crux is the notion that men are either genetically or socially conditioned to be evil. This explains why relatively harmless acts – an admiring glance, a whistle, a propensity for lads mags – are imbued with such weighty significance, often lazily labelled as “rapey”.

If a man looks at me, I infer he’s doing it for the exact same reason a woman would – because he finds me interesting to look at.
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I’ve become increasingly bemused by the “Twitter activists” whose “feminist” world view, however much they try to disguise it, necessitates a dim view of mankind. Some, for example, have taken to posting pictures of men looking at Page 3 on the train, with captions branding these individuals “creepy”, “vile” and “disgusting” without any sort of meaningful explanation. These women have made a broad assumption about what their male subjects are thinking – based on we know not what – and despise the product of their own projections.

Today’s feminism teaches British women to see themselves as victims and victims cannot exist without a villain, in this instance – men. In order for this thesis to have any kind of logic, feminists have made sweeping, inaccurate judgments about an entire demographic, based on nothing more than their gender. Ironically, the exact practice they claim to be fighting.

Gender equality requires co-operation on all sides. As a humanist, I’d like to see today’s feminists give men a bit more credit – they might just be surprised.>

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/10831043/Modern-feminism-has-got-it-wrong-about-men.html>