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This can't end well, can it? : Comments

By Ross Elliott, published 13/6/2014

We have a very fundamental problem with distortion in our housing markets that is already spilling over into other aspects of economic policy and questions of generational equity.

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Three monkeys all right. Local, state and Feds, all passing the buck and refusing to take responsibility. Yet another example of our over-government resulting in poor outcomes. And is it true that we pay first home buyers grants to international investors in our housing market?
Posted by estelles, Friday, 13 June 2014 9:24:50 AM
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Estelles asks:

… # And is it true that we pay first home buyers grants to international investors in our housing market?#

Here is an excerpt from an article (re; link supplied) applicable to NSW:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/foreign-buyers-are-cashing-in-on-nsws-new-home-grant-scheme/story-fni0cx12-1226817242757

#Under the first homeowner scheme, a buyer - and in the case of a couple, at least one of the two - had to be an Australian citizen and they had to live in the home for at least six months to qualify.

But, under the New Home Owner Scheme introduced in the 2012 state budget, buyers can own multiple homes in their country of origin and still apply for the grant for the purchase of Australian properties.

They don't have to live in it. All they have to do is apply through the foreign investment review board to buy.

In fact, if an overseas buyer were to buy 20 off-the-plan apartments, they could apply for 20 $5000 grants, Treasurer Mike Baird's office confirmed yesterday. The grant is paid as a discount on stamp duty for properties worth up to $650,000 and vacant land worth up to $450,000.#

…Why do we, as citizens of this claimed “Great Country”, suffer such indignities without protest?
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 13 June 2014 10:26:52 AM
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I suggest that anyone posting a comment on this item, and the author, read George Monbiots article, Homesick, published early this month.

The tax law in the UK and in Australia is weighted very heavily in favour of the speculator and investor and against the younger potential home owner.

Monbiot's article mentions the son of a UK government minister who spent about $6 million buying 40 council flats when the Thatcher regime decided to privatize council housing. Those flats have increased in value by a factor of three and the investor is gleaning $1,500,000 pa in gross rent.

Monbiot blames faults in the tax system for the whole house bubble problem.

How many wage plugs in Australia know that anyone whose only income is franked dividends pays no tax.

I did the exercise yesterday for someone grossing $120,000 per annum in franked dividends. After deducting the franking total from the calculated tax, they receive a small refund! That continues up the income scale with no apparent limit, except for small, usually temporary, levies.

That franking fault in the system is attributable to Hawke and Keating
Posted by Foyle, Friday, 13 June 2014 11:02:46 AM
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Apart from saying, that I agree wholeheartedly agree with DD and foyle. My only additional commentary is.
Negative gearing, [the emperor's new clothes of a housing poicy] has just got to go.
We are the only nation with, [absolutely positively,] dumb enough leaders, [the best I've ever seen,] to have one!
Consequently, we have the second highest house prices in the world!
Sydney is now the world's most expensive city, where a bedsit, costs more than the single pension!
Then we wonder, why we, in this rich and oh so lucky country, have over a hundred thousand homeless!
Whats next? Tent cities and soup kitchens?
Well we are the lucky county!
Shame, all you so called leaders, shame!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 13 June 2014 11:24:11 AM
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...The question must be asked; is there available to Australians, an alternative action (to reliance on Politicians), which will force a desirable political outcome to assist availability of affordable housing urgently?

...The time appears ripe to test the resolve of the “housing dispossessed”, (and the Government), for an orginised rent strike! This is a historically proven weapon sure to force attention to the huge problem high rents and housing unaffordability has created for the majority of Australians, as a direct result of Government policy!
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 13 June 2014 2:09:27 PM
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Not only is it extremely difficult for first home buyers to purchase a home in Australia, those that are able to could well find themselves in the nightmare of negative equity if or when the housing market collapses.

Speculators and investors can simply write off their losses. First home buyers, however, will more than likely be in 'dead money' debt servitude for life. (No US-style 'leave the keys and walk off the property' laws here).

One possibility that first home buyers should look into is buying overseas. Countries like the Philippines and Malaysia have much cheaper housing and a growing market. Countries like Ireland and Spain have very cheap prices after their housing collapses.

If you own a house or apartment in one of these countries, the net income from rental can then be offset against renting in Australia.

Buying overseas does involve a bit of mucking around and a lot of research, but it's a much safer bet than first-time buying into a dangerously overinflated Oz market.
Posted by Killarney, Friday, 13 June 2014 5:04:25 PM
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