Yuyustu:
It's not them who grant rights but those who elect them.
We tell them with our vote, what we the great silent majority, want from government! Hopefully, occasionally!
You want them out of your life? What an interesting concept!
I believe the only country where that was all the go, at one time, was Iceland, and where every adult gathered to vote on and pass various legislation, or ideas emanating from the floor.
And I suppose if your total population was around 50,000, that might be workable, as a once or twice a year opinion poll/referendum?
I don't know if that's still the case, or if they also have adopted universal suffrage?
Personally, I long for the day, when every vote is a secret ballot, and every parliamentarian is free to follow their conscience in all things.
This would be assisted by a Computer assisted electronic voting system, conducted under a hand covering cowl, so nobody could tell who voted and or which way anyone voted.
This would then surely allow the cream of the crop to rise to the top, with the most convincing, cogent and persuasive argument, winning the day, rather than the richest, most powerful or biggest bully on the block!
Cheers, Rhrosty.

Yuyutsu,
you are absolutely correct to be frustrated and annoyed at the blatant, arrogant statement of “fact” that those so-called “human rights laws” internationally being FORCED on all nations and peoples whether they like it or not, asked for it or not,

This merely demonstrates the extreme arrogance of the western elite to think they have the right to know and judge the moral code for the entire world.
. . . oh and about Diogenes and Alexander the Great – had Diogenes not been someone of note and status [in family at least] he would never have been able to speak to the tyrant like that, nor would history have remembered his name and deeds. But I get your point.

Spindoc –
true about the North Koreans as you say, but do you realize that by the western economies gorging on the cheap Asain labour markets, we are basically responsible for the continuance of those atrocious nations oppression of the masses.

Pericles,
if the western world and other nations really were genuine in the creation of those “universal rights” post WWII then why did the west immediately after the war decide to cash in on the oppression and rights abuses in the third world to have their labour markets become cheaper and give them higher profits?

No-one in power is really serious at all and in any sense.

. . . and our nation helping one or two coloured refugees DOES NOT me good blokes and actually following those human rights laws.

I am not fooled and I doubt the non-western world is either.

What a load of baloney, Sharon Tater. Where were all you "human rights" pukes when journalist Andrew Bolt was being prosecuted for doing his job? You people only grandstand about human rights when you can get some mileage out of it. And now we see that the "human bloody rights" pukes are backing the Nomads criminal gang over "freedom of association."

Listen baby. Get it through your overly thick cranium that nobody is going to take you seriously if you always oppose the interests of the ordinary people and instead always champion the "rights" of criminals, terrorists, and illegal immigrants.

Take your "human rights" and shove it.

The only "human right" that I recognise is the right of a democratically elected government to enact any legislation it deems necessary to create a functioning and peaceful society.

‘morning Jottiikii,

Your reply to my post was the funniest (sic) piece of contradictory verbiage I’ve read for many a year.

You said << Spindoc – true about the North Koreans as you say, but do you realize that by the western economies gorging on the cheap Asian labour markets, we are basically responsible for the continuance of those atrocious nations oppression of the masses.>>

I often marvel at those who have little “platitude and sayings” generators that string together someone else’s opinions which seem meaningful to themselves but come out the other end as meaningless rubbish. They are called “rhetoric engines”.

The problem you have is that these are not your opinions, you don’t have the intellect to generate your own otherwise you would. Therefore you don’t even understand what you have just written.

You offered a bizarre mix of Karl Marx, Max Weber with a touch of Emile Durkheim thrown in.

So let me get this right? North Korea has no human rights to speak of because they are a Marxist Totalitarian regime. This is because “we” are responsible for “”gorging ourselves on cheap Asian labor markets”, as a consequence of our now globalized trading world, this forces Marxist states like North Korea to oppress their masses?

Your Marxist quotes are directed at the non-Marxist nations who you suggest are responsible for making the Marxist State of North Korea into a failed, oppressive, totalitarian regime?

Not to mention that your adopted Marxism ideology is the cause of their failed State in the first place?

Karl Marx died in 1883, get over it or get your head examined

‘morning LEGO,

Don’t hold back, let it all that reality out.

I think there is a sort of “reformation” happening in OZ. I get the sense that more and more Australian’s are both questioning and rejecting the seemingly endless progressive pontifications with which we are lectured.

I also get the sense that there is panic from within humanities academia as they search for relevance in our changing world.

Like so many publicly funded humanities academics, they see the world through a haze of moral/value judgments. So much so that many have distanced themselves so far from reality that they have become isolated. They are faced with few choices.

They can remain as academics in the University sector however, they face the prospect of a shrinking student audience and reduced ARC public funding for humanities post graduate studies.

They can also continue to lecture the proletariat from the high moral ramparts or join an NGO and become paid activists.

Another option is to become a capitalist, join the ranks of human rights lawyers and profit from the “misery” of the oppressed.

Like you I feel strongly at the increasingly evident hypocrisy and selective amnesia portrayed by progressives in general and particularly from the moral lecturing class of humanities academia.

The great news is that the factional left wing variants that have been scurrying around the shadows of our society, have now banded together in full public view, in what they see as the “benign” banner of “progressives”.

The public can now at last question, examine, poke, prod and provoke a reaction, that reaction will always be more rhetoric and more vilification because that’s all they have left

Spindoc:
Ah to be sure to be sure, anyone who believes they need a psychiatrist, ought to have their head examined!
Rhrosty.