I think that your last post hit the nail right on the head, Yuyutsu.

Trendy lefties like yourself used to totally in support of Israel when it was just 2 million people, surrounded by 500 million people who loudly proclaimed that they were going to exterminate the Jewish state. The issue of morality used to look clear cut to people like yourself. People like yourself can only think in terms of "oppressors" and "oppressed", and Israel was once most definitely "the oppressed". Especially when every military pundit prior to 1967 confidently predicted that the Arabs with the huge armies, lavishly supplied by modern Soviet military equipment, would easily over run Israel. And everybody knew what Arabs and Muslims do, especially to females, when they conquer anybody.

But the Israelis lost the support of your caste for three reasons. First, they kept on winning. You automatically lose your "oppressed" status if you win. Second, they did so with the support of the most evil country in the world (the USA) which is a democracy which (unlike Australia) has freedom of speech, and its people support the death penalty. But lastly, the elites hated Israel because of a moral issue.

As the most racially victimised people in all of human history, the Jews had to be the one race on Earth that would support the new ideology of Saving the World by destroying racism. The trendies were absolutely shattered to realise that the Jews could be just as racist as everybody else. All of their theories on how they could Save The World by creating class and race blind societies were being destroyed by the very people they most expected to be their most ardent supporters.

That is why the trendies now support the Arab Nazis. Your forever moralising caste can redefine the "oppressed/oppressor theory of everything" to place the Arabs as the poor, peace loving victims. You can't get over the fact that the Jews can act on behalf of their own self preservation and do to their enemies what their enemies have been doing to them for 3500 years.

Dear LEGO,

I think for myself. Any correlation between my thoughts and those of "trendy lefties" are incidental.

I definitely want Israel to survive and be secure - and I have a very good reason for that: my family lives there. Just as you don't want to live under Shariah law in Australia, so I don't want my family to live there as Dhimmis, if at all.

Nevertheless, some of Israel's actions under the pretext of defence and preservation are too cruel and not truly motivated by security - it is those actions which I condemn, it is those actions that cause my family to live among unpleasant people, it is those actions that influence the mentality of Israel's younger generations, it is those actions that threaten the younger in my family to be ordered, as conscripts, to harm other people unnecessarily, it is those actions that cause my family to live in a country that is hated by the rest of the world.

I do believe that Israel's moral misfortunes originate in the 1967 war; that the territories 'gained' therein are no longer needed for security and are in fact a burden on Israel's security; and that the only way to restore Israeli society to its former humble and charitable past, making Israel again a place where it is pleasant and shameless to live, is to renounce all gains from that terrible 1967 war which poisoned Israeli society.

Alex - if you'd like more grist for your mill you would only need to read up on the anti-Hindu rhetoric that was blasted out from Pakistani radios and other media after the 1947 split from "Mother" England. I was in India in 1968, and it was still going strong, about how all the Hindus were going to be pushed into the ocean, beheaded, stabbed, etc. etc. Easily heard on any transistor radio, and strident in the manner of Hitler's most strident moments. When I began to tune in the the Palestinian mind-set it was strongly reminiscent. Regards, Glynne S.

You make a nice humanitarian pacifist Yuyutsu, but a poor military leader.

When you are surrounded by people who are determined to exterminate you, being humane to them is a stupid and inappropriate response. Taking territory from your enemies makes you stronger and them weaker. Israel would be utterly stupid to hand back the Golan heights to Syria because the Syrians (after they get through mass murdering each other with poison gas) will place the artillery, wheel to wheel on the Golan, and make a large part of Israel completely uninhabitable.

Even the return of the Sinai to Egypt is looking shaky when the majority of Egyptians in a democratic election elected a fundamentalist fruit cake "Islamist" (actually "true Islamic") party into power, and the yanks were stupid enough to sell them F-16's and to give them the technology to build a factory to make M1A1 tanks.

Israel's problem is that it is too nice to it's enemies. The Israelis should ethnically cleanse the Arabs by force from its lands, in the same way as the Arabs ethnically cleansed all the Jews from their lands. World opinion will not let them do it openly, so they are doing it the slow way by making it difficult for their Arab enemies to remain in Israel and make a living. Doing to your enemies, what they have done to you, is justice. Especially when they still demand your total extermination. Any references by the enemies leaders that they are now willing to negotiate to allow you to exist should be taken with suspicion and the deepest mistrust. The Arabs know that there are too many Yuyutsu's in the western world, and they know that you can be conned simply by pretending that they are the poor, oppressed victims.

People like yourself think that war can be solved by identifying who is greedy and who is oppressed. You can not seem to even fathom that war can have a religious cause and the Arabs see Israel as an affront to their God which nothing but Israel's complete extermination will resolve.

Dear LEGO,

<<People like yourself think that war can be solved by identifying who is greedy and who is oppressed.>>

"Like myself"? I never suggested anything of that nature.

The war in Israel has already been solved due to nothing but Israel's overwhelming military might. There is no peace, but no war either.

They say in Israel, "The Arabs are the same Arabs and the sea is the same sea" (referring to the Mediterranean in which the Arabs wish to drown all Israelis): well the sea is still the same sea, but the Arabs are no longer anywhere as strong and no longer pose a military threat. Without the Soviets behind them they are nothing.

While for Israel the Arabs remain an ongoing nuisance, a slight inconvenience, the biggest danger Israel is facing now is internal, being corroded from within in a process of moral degeneration that started with the 1967 war.

<<You can not seem to even fathom that war can have a religious cause>>

First there's no war, only a few minor skirmishes that do not resemble the past in either severity or frequency. Second, religion is never a cause for war: first come nationalism and territorial ambitions, then religion is added as a pretext in attempt to incite the masses, diverting their attention from internal problems. This is not religion, but sacrilege, using God's name in vain.

<<Syrians (...) will place the artillery, wheel to wheel on the Golan, and make a large part of Israel completely uninhabitable.>>

The cease-fire agreement forbids Syria to place artillery near the Golan. Syria is now broken and will take years to lick its wounds from their civil-war, then if they ever move their artillery forward, Israel could easily destroy it all in less than a day (better still, neutralise only the personnel without touching their pieces, then take over and turn that same artillery around), then advance towards Damascus. Israel has such advanced, sophisticated conventional and non-conventional weapons, beyond what any other country has, even the USA, including micro-robots which carry biological agents, making artillery a thing of the past.

I agree that Israel's military might is preventing Arabs from exterminating them, Yuyutsu. What I can't figure out, is why you think that they are wrong for the Israelis to be militarily strong in order to prevent themselves from being exterminated. At the moment, the Iranians are trying to build an atom bomb so that the "Palestinians" can sneak one or more into Israel (or New York) and set the damned thing off. That is hardly "a slight inconvenience."

The war is entirely religious. Islam is a warriors religion invented by a Jew hating genocidal warlord who wanted to rule the world. The Muslims will never accept that the Jewish homeland that they conquered for Islam would revert back to Judaism. Islam can only go forward, never backwards. For Islam to take a backward step is an affront to their non existent God. That is the ONLY reason why they want Israel destroyed.

Your seem to be suggesting that the Israelis should hand back the Golan because the Syrians would never place artillery on it again, and that if they did, Israel could easily destroy it. That is insanity. Without the Golan, Israel would have been over run on 1973 when the Syrians launched mass tank attacks all along the Golan. It was only because of the self sacrificing courage of a small number of Israelis tankers, who died in their tanks facing overwhelming odds rather than give ground until reinforcements arrived, that saved Israel from extermination that day. They would be suicidally stupid to give back the Golan. It is never going to happen.

If they were stupid enough to give back the Golan, they deserve to lose next time and be exterminated.