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Palestine: historical amnesia causes Kerry's downfall : Comments

By David Singer, published 16/4/2014

Kerry needs to come clean and put all the drafts of his framework agreement and the objections raised by Israel and the PLO into the public arena.

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The only long term solution to land theft is for the stolen property to be restored and the thieves to return, or be returned, to their own homelands, or share the stolen land with the native inhabitants on the basis of equal individual rights for all. No other solution will prevail without moral validation, and there has been no moral validation from the first day of the violent theft. No racist biblical blather (NONE!) can ascribe any moral validity to either great theft of Palestine or on any claims that a tiny racial group (ANY!) can be free of the moral constraints that bind the remaining seven billion of us. Kerry and Obama and all their successors will be increasingly aware of this as the Zionist claims (like Singer's) become more shrill and threatening to us all.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 7:35:43 PM
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Speaking as a former soldier, the people who are asked to fight all our wars and make the ultimate sacrifice, are soldiers!
That being so, dare I suggest, I and every other current or former soldier, are the very last to want war!
The impression, David G, strives to give, while seriously and dishonestly misrepresenting my views, by selecting out of context.
Simply put, Israel, will not allow Iran, to become a nuclear armed adversary. They have everything to lose, by allowing that outcome to actually occur!
Even if that then requires them to release the dogs of war and obliterate Iran and her Middle eastern allies.
That rational analysis, doesn't mean that's what I want or approve, as D.G. implies, and par for the course, for that patently disingenuous USA hater.
The problem with unrequited hate D.G., is that it destroys all reason and logic!
It defies simply defies rational logic, that ancestral cousins, all sons and daughters of Jacob, should not be able to settle their differences, without spilling blood?
I mean, in just 10-9 short years, the Arabs inside Israel, will outnumber the Jews and have the numbers to control parliament and through it, Israel's Mighty war machine/nuclear inventory.
Given their total history, 10-9 years is merely a moment in time!
That said, there seems very little reason or logic on display in either Israel, or those clearly hostile to it, in either the west, east, north, south or the middle, but a great big heaping helping of entirely irrational hate!
That's why, the Middle East, will erupt in war and before the Jews lose control of their parliament or military machine!
It's therefore, just a matter of time before the Middle East erupts in nuclear armed war, and the best reason we have, for divorcing ourselves from any involvement with, or dependence on any part of it!
With the end of that war, nobody will use nuclear weapons ever again.
It's a conflict that has no possible winners!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 11:32:22 PM
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Another Rrrhosty gem:
'It's therefore, just a matter of time before the Middle East erupts in nuclear armed war, and the best reason we have, for divorcing ourselves from any involvement with, or dependence on any part of it!'

Given that Australia supports Israeli military aggression and imperialism and is the No1 cheerleader for the world's biggest warmonger and imperialist, the U.S., we can hardly divorce ourselves from the coming conflict or its terrible aftermath.

Rrrhosty's confused thinking and clear pro-war sentiments are widespread in Australia and in the U.S.

He doesn't understand that you can't have your cake and eat it too!
Posted by David G, Thursday, 17 April 2014 7:22:08 AM
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Yeah certainly in my first year of Uni I was into such juvenile mantras as:

"military aggression and imperialism and is the No1 cheerleader for the world's biggest warmonger and imperialist,"

Then I grew up...
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 17 April 2014 9:50:41 AM
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I see no evidence in your comments that you grew up, Pete.

You're like many, a closet militarist who supports the 'invade, occupy and plunder brigade', the one led by the U.S.

No intelligent or mature human being advocates war!
Posted by David G, Thursday, 17 April 2014 10:26:03 AM
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Plantagenet holds in response to David G that to describe the USA is the world's biggest warmonger and imperialist is a "juvenile mantra". I must have been asleep all these years. Has there been a bigger one? Someone to send armed forces into more countries outside its own territory to control more foreign territory?
Posted by EmperorJulian, Friday, 18 April 2014 2:57:33 PM
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