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Marijuana's time has come : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 7/4/2014

The ancient Egyptians used medical cannabis extensively four thousand years ago, and the diuretic, antiemetic, antiepileptic, anti-inflammatory, analgesic and antipyretic effects of cannabis were well known in medieval medicine.

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Research equals delay! Why wait? Why not just trial it and quick. All the usual suspects would squeal and bring up everything against it but I am confident it would improve our country. Less money going to criminals and more sickness for addicts but how much more? You can only die once.
Consider the havoc created by Prohibition of alcohol in the US, really that was where the drugs really took off.
Let's support the new Senator and suggest he puts up a bill.
Posted by JBowyer, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 8:24:44 AM
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BUZZ/LIGHT-YEAR/QUOTE..<<>.We..are talking about..the life/of others, so..that..is it.>>

what..is he taking about?
on the beach/LINK..linking driving..to 2DE HIGHEST CAUSE..OF DANGER OVER DRINK DRIVING..[WITH BLOOD TEST/DONE ON..jailed/SMOKERS WHILE THEY WERE..LOCKED UP

[JUST BLOOD TEST/NO DRIVING TESTS..AT ALL
WERE CONDUCTED..repeat..[JUST BLOOD TESTING]

POINT..of your link..IS REFUTED HERE
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16196&page=0

so..mr buzz-ight..year will seek banning..non drivers?
and taking blood-tests..just to get a distraction..from/the..fact/that drunks driving are the biggest cause of death?

by far/..[please note *drug driving..is number two/
but cannbis isnt one of the 'drugs'..[its there/in trace elements]

ie..if they were testing for milk..or caffeine/
then coffee..would be number one 'cause..of death/driving
[but we got fools..like bitchy that post..the fraud/links and nutters like buzz..lightyear..saying absurdities..of BIAS HATE.SPITE"..

LIKE...<<..As no one would leave the car..in the garage for two weeks and..they would..indulge at least once a week..their drivers licence should/be canceled.>>

BUT WAIT/muggins/THE DRUG THUG..CONTINUES

<<..I don't see room..to do anything else.>>..

TRY TELLING..THE TRUTH..coppers
booze kills more than any/..and all/other drugs combined
booze is a drug too/thus drugs..is one and two/

booze is..the biggest cause..
so/which..real drug..is number two=prescribed meds

you see..the organized bias..we are fighting?
HOW WELL MEANING..miss-informed/useful/IDIOTS..PARROT BACK THE HEADLINE..NOT EVEN TESTED..IN THE 'STUDY'/THESIS..body.

DEAF BLIND DUMB //UNTHINKING biased/MINDLESSNESS..
ONE DAY../WE MUST SUE THOSE...SO ADEPT..AT SPINNING LIES.hating despising..those?like-me..so/much..you would risk..yET AGAIN/being caught lying..

yet again/LYING AGAIN
AGAIN..2 DE POST SCROLL DOWN
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16196&page=0

from on/the-munchies/link

<<..In this paper,..30 male chronic..*[note/word-use]..daily cannabis smokers...resided.[read/imprisoned]..on a secure*research unit..for up to 33 days,..with daily blood collection.>>

ie locked up..in jail..or prison..or
phyc unit or qunatonimo bay..for all we know..no/dope/..yet/given blood?..to make us look criminal/very effectively.[it fooled bitchy and buzzsore.

please/note...no mention..of..*measuring..'driving'..skills
[thats not what..this fraud exposes]...its what..it was turned into

so..what/was really tested

<<..These results..demonstrate,..[for..[lol]..the first time]>>

please/note/IMPORTANT

<<..that cannabinoids..*can be detected*..in blood
<<of..*chronic daily cannabis smokers..>>..*KEY*..<<..*during a month..of *sustained..*abstinence.>>

get it/yet?..
ie locked-up/IN JAIL/INSTITUTION
IE noT driving..not smoking..not testing..THE heading thesis...[nor is it sourced.]

yet..here is..oft-repeated
but..not tested/..IN summery

<<..Cannabis is second..only to alcohol..for
*causing impaired driving..and motor vehicle accidents...>>

of the tested BLOOD..[in prison]..not driving

none..were tested/for driving skill...
jusT BLOOD TESTS/and..THATS IT..JUST BIGOTED/BLIND/BIASED HATE]..BAH..DRUNKS..CANT READ/cant SYMPATHIZE..JUST FEAR/HATE...SPITE
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 4:34:34 PM
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its rather pathetic ya dont do ya research
you would/could note who is saying what
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=canavis+smokers+safer+drivers

my post just disappeared so im rewriting it..yet again
but this im doing for those you abuse/not you bigoted few
[why im anGRY..IS THIS LAW SCREWED UP MY LIFE/nit the drug/the law

again/note what WAS tested..wasnt driving skill
wasn't coming in second..but measured cannabis\trace/ammounts..in blood/without smoking

[please note vegetable intake not mentioned..5 vegetables HAVE CANNABINOIDS..[POTATO/TOMATO/LETTUCE]..SO IF THEY ATE THEM..THATS WHAT WAS BEING MEASURED.and don't think they noted that

but worse..they found a way..to include kids
[note/no age MENTIONED..

<<..In 2009,..12.8% of young adults..>>
BUT NO DOUBT 1ST YEAR.DRIVERS[THESE THINGS USUALY DONE..IN SCHOOLS.

]SELF.<<../reported driving under the influence..of illicit drugs>>

Failing to name any/but the new drugs of choice are not cannabis
yet here we are/how pathetically one eyed

<<.and in..the 2007 National Roadside Survey...*more drivers tested positive for drugs..than for alcohol.>>

again drugs
not cannabis

yet somehow/the flip is made..

<<. These cannabis smokers>>.
not boozers?
had ..a 10-fold increase in car crash injury..>>than who?..sober drivers?..drunk drivers..10 fold stronger dope?

that 10 fold thing comes up heaps/classic spin

who were we compared to..boozers>/
the clear and present danger/boosers....no

<<.compared with infrequent..or nonusers>>

then note this..<<..after adjustment*>>..

yeah/adjustment[read 10 fold]

that reminds ,me..of the drinking deaths [qld]/1999
5000 deaths were recorded//but after factoring in the advantages [benefit]..of drinking it fails to 2000

so 3000 booze deaths became 2000
not by 10fold manipulation..fOR DOPERS /BUT NOT for what..booze?

<<..after adjustment*..for blood alcohol concentration.>>

its pathetic/..the lies needed

DESPITE COMPUTER PROBLEMS..I PERSIST/
2B CTD
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 9:03:25 PM
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ITS THAT SO MANY HATE US BECAUSE OF JEDGAR HOOVERS LIES FOR DUPONT
AGAIN..ITS PATHETIC..BUT JUST PASTE THE WORDS..AND CALM DOWN[OR WE WILL LOCK YOU UP AND PUT You under section ..or worser drugs

bah

so what was really
tested?

<<..New research appearing online today in Clinical Chemistry, the journal of AACC, shows that cannabis can be detected in the blood of daily smokers for a month after last intake.>>>

were salad eaters excluded?

<<..The scientific data in this paper by Bergamaschi et al. can provide real help in the public safety need for a drugged driving policy that reduces the number of drugged driving accidents on the road.>>

by avoiding testing/or mentioning testing 'impared driving skills'

again with the spin/unrelated..to/the actual info tested

<<>Cannabis is second only to alcohol..>>

because prescribed drug driving is ok/or\.of no concern
GOVT EVEN pays for..'them'..then even protects/..them..[not us]

ts pathetic/..*..\..its..abc..fatcat/fact checking

FACT-check..yea..i know..ITS A JOKE

FROM/olo/thread

the/fraud/LINK..WAS REFERENCED..and
progressed/UPON..sanS CORRECTION/of THE clear-BIAS

ITS A Complete fraud..but thats how govt..
declares war on its kids..FOR REVENUE RAISING..
65 million..in fines..35,000 criminalized/by legaL AID/FRAUD..its pathetic..HANG YA HEADS IN SHAME

[WHERE STATE LAWS ARE DIVERGENT.. they fall subject to federal law
[there is no federal law/so even at the highest levels..its unlawful]
fines are in penalty-units or cash[but only coin is awfull tender/but yet we cant pay in coin/so they put a lien on my house/my 3,000 dollar fine lets govt steal my 300,000 house/

stuff govt colluding with courts/media
and lawyers and researchers selling lies..

how much my damages/a lost life.
by what right govt to declare war on its own
or worse declare a plant a drug..and declare war on a plant
that has healed us broken..by the abuser/loving the revenue.asset theft..

how dare you
GO MINESTER..I GOT PLENTY MORE FACTS.
THAN IM ABLE TO PRESENT/HERE NOW..

the facts.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Jack_Herer_-_The_Emperor_Wears_No_Clothes.pdf
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 9:09:51 PM
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Brian of Buderim & Bazz,

That research surprised me. I had been thinking that seniors might be allowed to consume MJ because it offered a cheap alternative to drugs and could be grown at home (limit 6 plants and 30 grams for private use). As well, there was the prospect of legal use cutting out a money supply to criminal gangs, with the spin-off that the strong hydroponic stuff (that gets smuggled in boogie boards) would be reduced.

I'd add though that I have no personal experience and was only going by published reports.

However as Bazz commented, a drug that persists for so long in the system presents a whole new range of serious risks.

Wise to wait for more research.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 10:37:34 PM
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Legalisation won't stop the criminals, they will just switch to something else.
There is no end of alternatives and stupid people who will try them.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 11:00:45 PM
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