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By Robert Bensh, published 4/4/2014Right now, the pipeline system is nothing but a conduit for Russian gas into Europe. It could be much more.
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Posted by one under god, Saturday, 5 April 2014 8:36:31 AM
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underonegod,
Wow! And to add, someone, [possibly the former President?] has transferred 73 billions of Ukrainian public funds, into not so secret anymore, private offshore accounts. Were the Ukraine authorities be able to recover this inherently stolen money, they would be able to develop many of their most valuable assets, and indeed, lift average wages above $100.00 a month! Those sort of average wages, could cause some manufacturers, to change their plans to move to China, which has wages inflation that is hovering around 10%+ per? And there are some American firms "invited" to leave Russia; and the Ukraine is just next door! In recent years, Swiss banks have been less reluctant, in exposing problematic accounts, and or, allowing the true owners of this money to have it back, for a suitable handling fee of course? Failing that, one can see a very cogent case for Europe, to invest very heavily in helping the Ukraine to develop its energy resources! For the very simple reason, it would allow them to stop having to rely on a price gouging Russia for anything! And the Ukraine is still a major grain producer, which still earns it considerable export dollars! If Russia were to invade the Ukraine, to guarantee its own food security, it would also need to take Poland and Hungry once more as a buffer? Only this time, it can't send Mongolian tanks and soldiers to quell the inevitable revolts! Meaning, any westward move by Putin would be far bigger bite than a still comparatively poor Russia could chew! Nor is NATO likely to sit still and allow that to happen! Rhrosty. Posted by Rhrosty, Saturday, 5 April 2014 10:16:30 AM
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Totally off topic:
(Soon to be Sir) John Howard as painted by Dubya Bush http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-05/john-howard-by-george-w-bush/5369514 Human guppy? Posted by plantagenet, Saturday, 5 April 2014 10:31:47 AM
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One under god and Rhrosty. I doubt R will read you list of sources, as he seems to have made up his mind on every topic offered in OLO. Shame really; it is necessary in old age to keep mentally active, but not to be trapped in the last Cold War and not to try to understand why since the collapse of the Soviet Union, NATO has moved east to encircle Russia. As I have repeatedly argued, this threat will force Russia to embrace China and Iran, which will set back the reform so desperately needed.
Throasty. Putin is not so stupid as to invade East Ukraine. That would be counterproductive and unnecessary. What I fear is that when the cost of the EU/US rescue of the dysfunctional, bankrupt Ukraine is felt there will be pleas to Russia for help. Throsty. Incidently, do you have any incontrovertible evidence that Putin “owns significant oil wells or shares”- world wide investigations have so far failed to document it. Posted by Leslie, Saturday, 5 April 2014 1:06:20 PM
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Rhrosty- with apologies to other readers for raising another irrelevance- but why do you declare "Mr Gorbachev, was a Ukrainian!"
He was born in southern Russia, and though from a peasant family, graduated from Moscow University cum laude with a law degree. Surely , if you want to exploit Gorby, you would cite reports that " The world should welcome the prospect of Crimea becoming part of Russia as it rectifies a historic mistake from the Soviet era, the Soviet Union's last leader Mikhail Gorbachev says. He described the weekend's referendum where almost 97 per cent voted in favour of Crimea joining Russia "as a success that responded to the expectations of Crimeans." Posted by Leslie, Saturday, 5 April 2014 1:42:47 PM
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Hi Rhosty,
I think Gorbachov was born in Rostov, just outside Ukraine. You might be thinking of Nikita Krushchev, who was Ukrainian. Just before the Russian aggression against Georgia in 2008, I was reading about a huge pipeline being built and almost completed, from Turkmenistan across the Caspian Sea, through Azerbaijan and Georgia, to Turkey and then up through Greece and Kosovo and Bosnia to central Europe. I forget the name of the project. When the Russians engineered their provocation, the pipeline had only twenty miles or so from Georgia to the Turkish border, to finish. Of course, since then the Russians have learnt one thing: they don't need any 'Incident', or 'provocation', they can just invade whenever, wherever, whoever. They're big, they once had an Empire which they are fully entitled to get back and even extend, in their own minds, so the world can kiss their @rses. Gosh, real internationalists ! I heard Russian thugs singing the old Stalinist anthem on TV, but waited in vain to hear them follow it with the "Internationale'. I think any Leftist useful idiot may be waiting a long time to hear that wonderful anthem again. Mind you, I still get a thrill hearing the old Soviet anthem, not having a clue what the words mean: perhaps something like, 'From the balmy Adriatic to frozen Alaska, and from holy Ararat to the Finnish lakelands, it's all ours, and forever.' Imperialism certainly dies slow in the human breast. Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 5 April 2014 3:19:32 PM
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its standard..opperation/procedure..globally
http://www.dekritischebelegger.nl/grondstoffen/goud/eu-wil-uw-kluizen-kraken/
[its not/us.,.its the imf/austerity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJEuXFdjXkU
its unbelievable the ideas the capitalists seek to steal/from the people..talk about Ukraine/facing the executioner..[find the asset sell it off/then spend half the profits fixing the pipeline/for those who bought it 'run down'..but have bound govts hands..to give half it back..fixed up..to those who formented the uprising..to steal/the public utility cash cow plum
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=16188
so next/they cut pensions/we know the austerity game
http://investmentwatchblog.com/u-s-to-pay-off-public-debt-5747-years-at-100-dollars-per-second/
<<>>Eventually, it will happen, and what elections will tell us simply is how long it will take.>>
http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/urging-new-path-forward-tens-thousands-demand-end-eu-austerity/
<<>.There are a lot of resources..to be developed in Ukraine,..and there are also quite a few companies..who have assets they cannot development,..primarily due to lack of funding or marginal management teams...These companies will now be seeking to transact with larger players...lol..[preventing/the funding]
http://xrepublic.tv/node/8304
Historically, the most significant red flag for new investors in Ukraine has been working with the government. It's too early to determine whether that will change. Bureaucracy generally kills deals more than anything, and foreign companies coming in will never be able to understand how the bureaucracy works.
http://thehill.com/293919-obama-signs-stock-act-step-back
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/ukraine-fascist-coup/
The smart investor will employ capital through a Ukrainian private entity to maximize investment dollars. Western management teams, without help from local partners, won't be able to operate in this venue even if they are top-notch managers.>>
cause/we bought/them all out?
its called..the enron-isation..of the world
[simply capture energy/production\distribution/billing rights etc..then bleed us dry..[plus carbon tax on top/plus service fees \;service charges/levies/infrastructure/spending[jobs jobs jobs/for thugs to/further bleed you dry..by guilt..and lie
they play the same game/with carbon credits
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16076&page=0