You'll have to try harder to sink the inconvenient truth than that, cohenite, there's a bigger stick (10000 yrs longer than Mann's).

For the layman: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-03/09/hockey-stick

For the scientifically bent: http://content.csbs.utah.edu/~mli/Economics%207004/Marcott_Global%20Temperature%20Reconstructed.pdf

For the politician and concerned citizen: https://docs.google.com/viewer?pid=explorer&srcid=0B5NgIqKD_aX4Y3Y0dG9pdDFEUGc&docid=e73beb68456ab5a310eaa280ad0a0a3b%7C67a652d697b3744513d2e5804dd5800c&a=bi&pagenumber=1&w=800

Marcott? Seriously Lucie? Marcott is number 5 of my most recent list of worst AGW papers:

http://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/new-ten-worst-agw-papers-by-cohenite.html

The limit stopped me posting and I have been travelling. Will reply in the morning, Sunday. Cheers. JF

In Anthony Cox universe, the definition of worst papers is not based on how bad a paper is, how poorly executed the work is, how tortuous the logic and how wrong the conclusions. To become a worst paper in Anthony Cox universe the conclusion must disagree with the Anthony Cox view of the world. The more difficult it is for Anthony Cox to rationalise away the conclusions of the work, the worst the paper must be. This is why you would never see this paper in Anthony Cox’s list of worst papers http://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/3/8/1603 or this one http://multi-science.metapress.com/index/B757046647343465.pdf or this one http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00254-006-0261-x and definitely not this one http://multi-science.metapress.com/content/v3600623g8txh577/

This is why in Anthony Cox universe, the list of the World’s 5 top climate scientists contains an economist and an engineer. Because this is an alternative universe folks where you don’t want reality getting in the way. You might have noticed how Anthony Cox and his great friend cohenite repeatedly link to the blogs of a former TV weather presenter, a former children’s television presenter and a retired school teacher for information on climate science. It is because in Anthony Cox universe these people have significant expertise that cannot be found among publishing climate scientists

Luciferase,
Are you saying that according to physics an increase in matter cannot retain an increase in heat?

From my poin of view, there is a significant amount of limestone/calcite suspended in the Bering Sea. The coccolithaphore phytoplankton there is micro and yet it can be seen from a satellite in space.

I think an increase in limestone/calcite shell suspended in Bering Sea water would equal an even greater increase in solid matter mass than usual, and I think that increased mass would retain warmth more than usuaI.

I think limestone is a more dense matter than green algae plant matter. Yes no?

A basic experiment should indicate what I mean.
If some powdered limestone is placed in one of three equal containers, algae in the second container, clear water in the third container, with boiling water added equally at the same time in all at sunset, in order of cooling which container/substance would stay warm the longest?

OLO is providing a virtual test ground for me, e.g about whether or not a human activity-linked source of warmth is being carried into hours of night, to whatever slight degree, and whether or not that has been measured and assessed by AGW science.

At end of the day I know green algae in water carries warmth into hours of night and I know that from real world experience 50 years ago, pre Internet science.
And I did an experiment recently that confirms that carry over of heat by algae in water.

people have significant expertise that cannot be found among publishing climate scientists
Posted by Agronomist, Sunday, 6 April 2014 9:17:29 AM

Agronomist,
Your comment there is so true. Makes me think of my very first job in life. I left school to ride horses mustering in the outback but on arrival I was given a half round broom, a spanner, a shovel and an old army jeep. The job was cleaning stock water troughs on the 240,000a acre property 200 miles west of Bourke.

After 3 months of that task I was about ready to quit, not a horse in sight.
I asked the manager why that work. He explained when sheep come in late afternoon they want a cool drink. He said if the water is warm some sheep hang back till 10 or 11 at night until the water cools, some stay until morning. He said sheep hanging about the watering place puts dust in the wool and that reduces wool value. So there was need to keep algae out of the troughs as much as possible.

No doubt there was primary industry science on that at the time, well pre Internet like in the late 1950's.

These days I think subject of warmth carried over in algae is a missing part of AGW science, not seen by today's publishing climate scientists