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Holy Land for holy dollar? : Comments

By David Singer, published 27/3/2014

US Secretary of State John Kerry has increased the possibility of renewed conflict in the Holy Land with some very confusing remarks this week refuting his earlier demand that the PLO recognize Israel as the Jewish State.

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#Emperor Julian

Guess I will have to add "Islam-hater" to your CV.

You now also state:

"Many Palestinians though are not Arabs. A lot are Jews – Palestinan (sic) by place of birth and Jewish by ancestry."

Your mate Abbas and the PLO do not agree with you - as Article 1 of the PLO Charter makes clear:

"Palestine is the homeland of the Arab Palestinian people; it is an indivisible part of the Arab homeland, and the Palestinian people are an integral part of the Arab nation."

As for your display of Jew-hatred - and Islamic hatred - this effort of yours on 29 May 2013 should more than suffice:

"The snake oil is, at base, the blasphemous claim that God promised Palestine to those who invaded the territory three thousand years ago, butchering resident tribe after resident tribe and stealing their land, and the historically phoney claim that today's Jews are their descendants.

There can be no justification for a Jewish, Arab or any other state based on genetics (that includes the PLO definition) or on religious superstition as demanded by Moslem jihadists."

Live with your hatred. It will ultimately consume you
Posted by david singer, Saturday, 29 March 2014 7:48:17 AM
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Mr Singer seems to have collapsed into incoherence.

He quotes two paragraphs I wrote in 2013, paragraphs which I would stand by today as justified in every detail, and without refuting or even rebutting them he seeks to brush them aside as "hatred". There are irrefutable sources to justify each paragraph. For the first, try the Pentateuch or the excellent summary of it at
http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=12&article=1630. [1]
For the second, try Ibrahim's article, or try the little matter of the Enlightenment.

[1] The significance of the account described by these religious kooks is that the crimes it describes as committed by an (invented) God via an (invented) "chosen people" and recorded in the Pentateuch, are the model for a present-day political creed of racial entitlement. Small wonder a "nation" crafted by such minds and based on such imaginary monsters is an insult to the decent human beings it casts as the inheritors and a danger to the world. Try reading it in detail. Twice.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Saturday, 29 March 2014 2:58:40 PM
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#Emperor Julian

1. You referred me to the following article:

http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=12&article=1630

2. You claimed it substantiated your making the following comment:

"The significance of the account described by these religious kooks is that the crimes it describes as committed by an (invented) God via an (invented) "chosen people" and recorded in the Pentateuch, are the model for a present-day political creed of racial entitlement. Small wonder a "nation" crafted by such minds and based on such imaginary monsters is an insult to the decent human beings it casts as the inheritors and a danger to the world. Try reading it in detail. Twice."

3. I read it more than twice and would refer you to the author's conclusion:

"Though the enemies of the God of the Bible are frequently heard criticizing Israel’s conquest of Canaan, the fact is, such a conquest was in complete harmony with God’s perfectly loving, holy, and righteous nature. After patiently waiting for hundreds of years, God eventually used the Israelites to bring judgment upon myriads of wicked Canaanites. Simultaneously, He spared their children a fate much worse than physical death—the horror of growing up in a reprehensible culture and becoming like their hedonistic parents—and immediately ushered them into a pain-free, marvelous place called Paradise (Luke 16:19-31; 23:43)."

Either you or I has a screw loose - and I am certain it is not me.

4. I can't stop you being a Jew-hater or Islam hater or an enemy of God.

Just be man enough to acknowledge you are - and there are countless others like you.

Don't pretend to be what you are not.

You don't have to believe what others believe - but why do you so hate those others who choose to think differently to you?

To me you are the pits and a source of utter contempt.
Posted by david singer, Saturday, 29 March 2014 4:45:22 PM
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Post no. 5 in response to David Singer (Gish Gallop territory): Thanks for spelling out the freakery behind all your legalistic twaddle.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Saturday, 29 March 2014 7:21:55 PM
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#Emperor Julian

I take it by your latest inane response that my rebuttal of your posts - which I have substantiated and exposed as being full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments supposedly backed up by references to articles that say completely the opposite to what you allege - has led you to decide to call it a day and submerge yourself anonymously in your Jew-hated and Islamic-hatred.

Wallow in that hatred - which has caused so much suffering in this world and is destined to do so in the future - whilst those of your ilk continue to hate the way you do.
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 30 March 2014 9:04:25 AM
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