What keeps the Wind Turbines turning when there is no wind?

Dearest spindoc, I trust you enjoyed your European sabbatical. It might we worth considering that during the Middle Ages the Portuguese farmers were not really aware of electricity either and as for coal, I'm they just burnt it to keep warm.

But not far from Portugal, Germany is able to provide 20% of its electrical needs from solar energy. Imagine and the Portuguese would have considerably more sunlight, and oops we would have considerably more then the Portugese.

Now consider that this solar stuff is only decades old and has hardly received a warm welcome as it threatens to undermine so many current cash cows. Isn't this the beauty of the capitalist system, something better comes along, the old becomes redundant, discarded

Hi YEBIGA,

I’m so glad that you nominated Germany and their success with renewable energy. Sounds very exciting and perhaps Australia should try to emulate their success?

Perhaps you could explain to OLO’ers just what has been achieved by Germany in terms of national costs, energy prices, impact on industry, where they are going with their regulatory environment, what has changed in their fuel mix and perhaps you might address the issue of how the Germans actually feel about renewable energy?

Much of this news does not make it to our media however, some of us take the time to post links to renewable energy developments across Europe, EU policy decisions and a wide range of news items on this subject.

Since you have clearly not seen these, you can find a good selection in my posting history. This might save you the embarrassment of responding with platitudes and rhetoric.

Go for gold YEBIGA.

Looking forward to all that good news from Germany.

Yes read it and?
If rather than looking for a black or white, yes no binary answer, youmight understand that the dislocation currently experienced by Germans is not a refutation of the technology but merely highlights that transitioning from coal to a mixed system and then an entirely renewable system has challenges. One challenge of course, is that the traditional coal grid providers are not very happy having their business model threatened. In particular, they hate those people running off the grid.

The intermittent nature of sunlight without the ubiquitous presence of sufficient storage is being exploited by traditional coal electricity providers to undermine and forestall the inevitable. Nothing to be surprised by this is there?

Exaggerating vague fears will no doubt help delay implementation and every delay means more profit but the train she is coming.

YEBIGA,

I don't know why you bother. I used to enjoy the riposte on OLO but eventually it wears you down...I only look now out of self flagellation just in case the adults have returned.

We have Cohenite, AKA iron carbide, you have Runner, god's own messenger and Jardine de stutter who can't sustain a rational debate without name calling or reverting to cite "proof" of their denial of AGW or evidence of damage from wind farms from some luminaries such as as Jennifer Mahorasy or Anthony Watts.

I did try to unsubscribe from OLO but I still seem to be in the system and every now and then a topic interests me but then the same old handles turn up.

Depressing but I guess I just reverted to name calling didn't I? My bad :)...perhaps it doesn't count if they can't use their real names?

YEGIBA,

You << Read it >> YOU READ “IT”

“It” ? You read “it”? Tell me again, you read IT!

You read six months worth of links covering the dismantling of all things green and renewable in Europe, the EU, Eastern Europe, the USA and Germany in particular and you say << you read it >> ? He he he!

Did you actually describe all this green capitulation as a << dislocation being experienced by Germans >> ? Ooops! A dislocation?

He, he he, ha ha ha !

I have previously been suspended for calling posters out as liars. So I’m not going to call you out as a liar, nor would I ever suggest that you were a liar, nor would I ever ask other posters to endorse alleged lying, it would be totally inappropriate to call anyone a liar, it would be against Forum rules to call someone a liar, people have been suspended for accusing posters of lying, I would never suggest that even those who present as being intelligent are even capable of lying, in fact, I’m not even intelligent enough to detect a lie, nor would I suggest that an obvious lie was in fact a lie, allegedly.

God bless progressives in strife. Scratch the surface and you get emotional eczema.

You Exhibit Grandiose Indications Bereft of Anything -YEGIBA