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England is whistling in the wind : Comments

By Anthony Cox, published 13/2/2014

Matthew England has written a new paper which supposedly shows that increasing trade winds are responsible for the hiatus in temperature increase, except the evidence is wind strength is decreasing.

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Seems they've all sooked off.
Posted by imajulianutter, Sunday, 16 February 2014 4:34:36 PM
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cohenite,

I'm presuming ozdoc is trained in one or several disciplines related to climate and has published papers in scientific journals. Obviously he would lose his anonymity if he was to link to them - and real scientists protect themselves for good reason in the current "climate".

Can't do much about that.

There is a world of difference between peer-reviewed publication and getting an article up on an opinion site.

(imajulianutter - I avoided OLO completely for a good number of weeks, but had a peek recently and got lured back for a bit...time to toddle off once more:)
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 17 February 2014 12:31:47 AM
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Now that's unreasonable Poirot. Ozdoc has been a fierce critic of my work. If he is a trained scientist in the field of climate he should at least say so; after all both bonmot and Q&A made their claims about their scientific credentials and of course I gave them much more respect thereafter.

Ozdoc should be proud of his qualifications and allow us plebs a chance to read something an expert has written.

I'm still wondering about agro and bugsy; maybe they've got none but are just really, really smart.

Incidentally what are your qualifications Poirot?
Posted by cohenite, Monday, 17 February 2014 8:18:45 AM
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cohenite,

".... after all both bonmot and Q&A made their claims about their scientific credentials and of course I gave them much more respect thereafter."

You jest, surely?

If anything, you gave them less respect.

You may have respected them more internally, but that didn't translate to courteous behaviour on your part - and gave rise to a similar reaction from them.

It's the reason why real scientists don't frequent sites like this.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 17 February 2014 9:06:34 AM
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I can't fool you Poirot, you're too perceptive, you see right through me. Are you sure you're not a scientist too?

What's your latest tip about AGW, any good papers, articles we should be aware of? I find all your links and references interesting.

For mine Max's latest article on wind turbines hits the spot; and it dovetails very nicely with this article about England, another AGW scientist deserving of respect, and his bad wind.

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=16027&page=0

I bet you support wind power Poirot.
Posted by cohenite, Monday, 17 February 2014 9:16:29 AM
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Poirot

'Obviously he would lose his anonymity if he was to link to them - and real scientists protect themselves for good reason in the current "climate".'

Then instead of you should assuming so, why doesn't he come out and say so.

In the past climate very courageous Anti AGW scientists came out and expressed their views.

Boy you'd have to agree they copped heaps and we who supported were labelled with that disgraceful name 'Denialists'

Yes now the climate has changed and warming is being seen for what it is and incredibly many of it's science supporters now crave anonimity because ... they are scared of being called few names? ... or because their reputations and future grants will be utterly trashed?... or simply because they are wrong?

You suffer the fools, I won't. And I won't spare them either until they admit and retract their wrongheaded views.

As for the likes of witless well let's see, he enters a debate with the following:

'Ah ha. This is where all the fun it to be had! Bonza!

Then when faced with his own witlessness he throws about silly excuses and sneaks quietly out the back door.
Posted by imajulianutter, Monday, 17 February 2014 11:41:56 AM
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