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Climate change is here despite denial : Comments

By Lyn Bender, published 4/2/2014

Seems it never rains in Southern California. But California Dreamin' has become a California Dryin' nightmare and many are praying for the drought to end.

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Quite right Grim. Scientists are just following the money. Offer money to prove global warming and bingo! No honesty whatsoever.
Now we have the edifying spectacle of the "Scientists" who have argued for years the world is actually getting warmer, admitting it actually hasn't. End of story, one crooked peer backing up another.
BOM head sacked! first thing to do and let the rest know that their big fat pension is dependant on not being caught being dishonest.
Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 10 February 2014 9:53:11 PM
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Dear utternutter,

Yup, nothing, thought so.

But there is one thing Cohenite said that caught my eye;

“climatically significant period”

It use to be a standard line from the doubters that the time scales were too small to say anything definitive about the veracity of climate models.

Well I might be misconstruing things so we should really go to the source.

Dear Cohenite,

What pray tell do you deem to be a “climatically significant period”?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 10 February 2014 10:49:53 PM
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Witless Goebbels

'And still you haven't explained how the following fit your fantasy:
Increasing durinal temp range.
Increasing ice caps.
Stable surface temps.'

Yep Nothin'
Posted by imajulianutter, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 9:29:05 AM
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James

it would have been better if you had contained yourself. But you didn't... again.
Posted by imajulianutter, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 9:34:29 AM
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Listen steele you have been given Santer's paper defining 17 years as a climatically significant period so are you being difficult? Here it is again:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2011JD016263/abstract

Just following on from James' infatuation with the latest England paper about winds driving Trenberth's missing heat to the bottom of the ocean.

I have already given the TOA OLR data which contradicts this point and a graph of global wind speeds which shows them decreasing but apparently England's passing wind schmozzle based on increasing winds is also contradicted by his mate, Vecchi's earlier paper showing winds slowing:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/10/seven-years-ago-we-were-told-the-opposite-of-what-the-new-matthew-england-paper-says-slower-not-faster-trade-winds-caused-the-pause/

In fact a lot of research has shown that a phenomenon known as "Stilling" with slower global winds has been happening:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022169411007487

And the Walker circulation has not been increasing:

http://landshape.org/enm/files/2011/01/walkerarticle.pdf

And of course the ocean is not warming and at the surface is actually cooling.

England has generated this farrago of a paper based on models. And like the pea-brains they are the MSM has picked up on it and so have the usual twits who believe in AGW no matter what.
Posted by cohenite, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 11:22:18 AM
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Dear Cohenite,

Damn it, I've been inked again.

Come on mate, I didn't ask what Santer thought it was, I asked specifically what period do you personally deem to be “climatically significant”?

Well?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 11:51:49 AM
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