It would have been funny if the internet was around in 1967 or during the debate on women getting the vote.
There is no doubt in my mind that the right wing trolls on this site would have thought both were a bad ideas. Completely at odds with the western worlds traditions (read christ-stains).

Oh How they would have moaned and nashed their teeth and held up their little fists.

I would not be surprised if some of them actually still thought both of these progressive ideas were bad turning points in our culture.

Kipp,
You can say that but it doesn't make it so, like Candide you've obviously never spent much time around Gay men or probably even among the more dissolute straight men such as Bikies and other outsiders. 100% of the Gay men I've known over the years have been as I've described, seriously what do you think happens when a group of men is freed of all the restraints and social mores of the "straight" world?
Gays are hard people, they're tough in their own way, I respect them for the outsiders, the hustlers, the whores and the mountebanks that they actually are not as the idealised figures from progressive fiction.
Cornonacob,
Firstly there's a difference between a "progressive" and an enlightened attitude toward homosexuals.
Progressives are only interested in advancing their narrative, adding the next chapter to the big book of Liberal fairy tales, "Progress" isn't judged by results, only by it's relationship to Liberal Canon.
See above, in contrast to "progressives" I've been enlightened by extended contact with the Gay world and it's denizens and I accept them for who and what they actually are.

Jay of M I'm Gay mate !! and you talk a load of rubbish, when it comes to what gay people have to deal with daily.
Walk a kilometre in my shoes then you can comment.

Hey, Roddie, we get nearly 40 comments on your Gay Handbag article and 4 comments on Prof. Rees comment on the Palestinian calamity. We don't have to guess where the world's priorities lay, do we?

Whether gays can enjoy sodomy with legal approval or whether a whole people can escape the decades-long brutality and cruelty of the The Children of God seems to have unequal billing in the minds of OLO contributors.

Obviously screwing a whole people or screwing every male in sight is an unequal contest as they see it!

Sometimes, I wish I believed in God and eternal punishment!

Kipp,

I can see where you are coming from when the pin-up Grrl of the feminists and first female PM of Australia finds the stereotypical gay slur so irresistible as to use it to 'poison the well' and trash the reputation of a political opponent in parliament. I refer to the 'mincing poodle' slur.

On this site a woman poster who is an avowed Julia lover continues Julia's gay sex slur, referring to male posters as 'Chihuahuas'. She obviously revels in the opportunity to extend the disgraceful slur to imply smallness in all respects. That doubles the sexual offence. Yet she claims to support gays! Maybe the right word is patronise, not support.

I don't believe that gays are choosing the smart or better course for themselves by allowing the feminists and 'Progressives' to institutionalise and regulate them and their relationships.

It is not yet too late to use any momentum left to come up with a creative alternative to the 'marriage' and family law concocted by the feminists and Fabian Socialists 'Progressives'. Neither crew gives a stuff about male gays and both are totally for State control and interference by the State in private lives, especially where men are concerned.

Don't you guys feel like marionettes, with your strings being manipulated by others? You should.

Kipp,whine, narrative of oppression, Liberal canon etc.
Can you deny the things I've said about the Gay subculture?
So are Gay men still taking steroids and methamphetamine because everyone hates them and not because they want to look good in the club and have that crazy, violent sex you get on speed?
Wow! Gays must really have changed in the last 20 years, so if I went to a Gay club tonight are you saying that some stranger is not going to try and rub my crotch as I'm talking to them or try and pop amyl under my nose like they used to?
Then again, I'm older and fatter than I was back then and I know how "the boys" are about youth and beauty ;)
Seriously though Kipp, as one transgressive, attention seeking personality to another, do you really see yourself as "equal" to Fred Nile or Danny Nalliah? I don't.