No warmair the first requirement for any severe weather is the potential between the tropics & the polls. The higher the difference in temperature, the greater the potential for storms, & the more sever the storms are likely to be. Do some reading other than propaganda sheets.

As the theory of global warming goes, it is polls that warm fastest, & to a greater extent. Thus the greater the warming, the less number & severity of storms.

Take heart, the Philippines typhoon, if it is actually exceptional, is proof that the earth is cooling. As it was in fact, not exceptional, it says nothing at all about CO2 or global warming.

It does however say quite a lot about Green harpies who want to jump on any bit of bad news to push their dying case, & everything it says is not at all complementary.

And Graham, why so many articles by kids.

Surely it would be better if these kids finished their apprenticeship & spent some time paying their debt to the community that educated them, before they start pontificating on how the grown ups should live.

No Kilmouski, I do not jest. It took a while to be sure, but we as ship and submarine builders, can now compete with the best.
What we need to get rid of is the problematic foreign made liquid oxygen/Diesel engines?
I mean, most of the reported problems have been with the engines, fuel leaks and fuel fires? Not good in submarines!
And freight forwarding submersibles don't need to operate at a thousand feet or more below, which has a tendency, to expose welding flaws and design failures.
Ask any nation which uses our home made patrol boats, if we can or cannot build good ships, and the answer is usually, yes we can.
We invented the computer controlled precision cutting, which allows every part to seamlessly fit with the others.
Our major problem, is I dare say, is people just like you, who regard our own as second best, regardless of the actual facts?
We are not by any stretch second best, and we do export fast ferries to most of the rest of the world.
I would agree however, that our expertise, would in no way be harmed if we included a few experienced Norwegian shipbuilders and designers in it, particularly, if we were to undertake, the proposed submersibles build!
They have considerable expertise in roll on roll off ferries, which are already partially submersible!
While it might be a little cheaper to have these things built in china, maintenance and spare parts supply is usually much more reliable, from the viewpoint of an entirely indigenous operation!
We already have iron ore and coal, from which we make great steel by the direct reduction process, which by the way, is the lowest carbon producing method.
It therefore follows, we should turn some of this stuff into nuclear powered ships, that we use to run the world's freight around with?
Shipping remains one of the most profitable operations on the planet, with the best dividends!
Cheers, Rhrosty.

Warmair
Building codes would certainly have made a difference in the Philippines and Darwin is a prime example. Compare the devestation and death tolls in Darwin with what happened in the Philippines. As devastating as it seemed at the time to us, there is no comparison, and that was in the 1970s. Now go and look at what happened when Yasi hit the Nth Queensland coast in 2011. Note that in the town of Tully, which was by far the worst hit, all the houses there were built before a change in building codes, so they lost their roofs. Elsewhere, housing stock was damaged but not devastated.

As town planning is also quite different in Nth Qld the storm surge would not have anything like the same effect (and didn't at the time of Yasi), so that's out as well.

If the Philippines could afford better buildings, as well as proper evacuation plans and reinforced emergency shelters and the like, a lot of tragedy and damage could be averted. Supporting a carbon tax is highly unlikely to do anything about warm oceans but it may affect national incomes and that would cost far more lives.

Are, another write in effort to OLO of the "Global Voices youth delegate to the current UNFCCC" campaign.

An improvement on poor Darcy's attempt last week - at http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=15744&page=0

But still like all young, naïve, left-wing(?) efforts they are both fixated with blaming developed Western countries.

Look around Global Voices youth delegates, it is developing China and India that are heavily dependent on dirty coal power stations.

Developing China and India are contributing most to growing climate changing greenhouse gas these days.

How about making China and India (and Saudi Arabia?) pay for the damage rather than China and India being the main recipients of most of the guilt money extorted out of the West.

Rhrosty

No. Australia never had authentic "hard won submarine building expertise". The Collins submarine had a long troubled development. Most of these subs remain under repair or maintenance. Much has been covered up. The Collins is a highly unreliable, dysfunctional submarine - that few submariners want to serve in.

Australia's submarine "expertise" and its labour force have mainly been lost.

Pete

Rhrosty
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" No. Australia never had authentic "hard won submarine building expertise". The Collins submarine had a long troubled development. Most of these subs remain under repair or maintenance. Much has been covered up. The Collins is a highly unreliable, dysfunctional submarine - that few submariners want to serve in. "

We killed off our " high technical expertise " many, many years ago. How do I know. I was there. I grew up with it!

We built a satellite and had it in orbit in a few months. We designed and built anti submarine misslies/ torpedo systems, and exported them. We built and designed the most amazing laser depth profilers we were amazing! Our sonar systems WERE amazing.

How do I know - I was there.

Now all we have is " bloody google" and every body elses work except our own.

Hasbeen is completely correct. If you believe in AGW then you must logically believe in fewer cyclones/hurricanes/ typhoons, which meteorologically are all the same thing. The reason is a reduction in the primary energy and therefore temperature gradients on Earth horizontally between the poles and the equator and vertically with the creation of a THS.

Richard Muller has noted this:

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/expert-claims-climate-change-is-making-tornadoes-weaker/story-fnii5s3x-1226766820533

And the IPCC has disavowed any connection between AGW and extreme weather events:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/10/03/pielke-jr-agrees-extreme-weather-to-climate-connection-is-a-dead-issue/

As for surface temperatures, globally they look like this:

http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadsst2gl/from:2003/trend/plot/hadsst2sh/from:2003/trend/plot/none

As can plainly be seen both SSTs globally and in the SH are declining since 2003 the time when the ARGO floats, the most exact measurement of SST, were introduced.

People who argue that the Philippine's typhoon was due to AGW are idiots.