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By Peter Coates, published 11/11/2013Today there are many ways to remember those Australians killed in war. You could use songs, memorials, speeches, as well as your own experience.
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A national cemetery is a daft idea - are you proposing that bodies be dug up from all over Australia and reinterred there? What about the feelings of the families and descendants of those people? What about people who have been cremated? What about the wishes of the deceased - I know of one person who would have 'qualified' for a spot in a national cemetery who had very specific instructions for his remains - would they be ridden over roughshod? This seems like a cultural cringe copy of the US Arlington cemetery, and it would be false to create one now in Australia. It would also deny communities ongoing connection with their famous sons and daughters. If we want to honour our military I suggest we make much better provision for care of returned veterans from Iraq, Afghanistan etc.
Posted by Candide, Monday, 11 November 2013 8:41:55 AM
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The idea of an Australian National Cemetery should not be rejected just because the US had the foresight to build one. Canberra still has the space to host one.
This would be a better use of the nation's land than more rusty concrete government offices and half used retail space. Its up to the Abbott Government to do something memorable including consulting many in working out the details of how a National Cemetery can be created. Pete Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 11 November 2013 8:56:46 AM
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Hi Pete,
The sentiment was lovely and does justice to our diggers. Whether a national cemetery is constructed rests with the government after consultation. Even is one is constructed it does not mean that just because you qualify to be buried there that you will. Surely relatives and the person themselves will have the final say. Once of the most pressing problems is PTSD which is not receiving the attention or resources that need to be allocated to address this very serious disorder. One of my hopes with the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan is that we recognise what they have achieved. Whether we believe that the war was justified, legal or needed we should recognise what the men and women gave and gave up. To go to war was not their decision, it was a political decision and it is up to the political system to ensure their well being and security. Posted by romingfree, Monday, 11 November 2013 1:04:47 PM
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Hi romingfree
Yes following consultation an Australian National Cemetery can be created in ways that suits current Australian society but also with an eye to posterity. Such a cemetery to our fallen should last hundreds of years at least. PTSD is indeed a major problem - at a minimum diggers who have served a good part of their lives in prolonged states of tension (multiple deployments overseas) may have difficulty adjusting. Worse is being wounded-injured overseas or seeing mates or civilians die, particularly in Afghanistan. The PTSD factsheet in the article http://www.defence.gov.au/dco/documents/News%20-%20Current/131010%20ADF%20Mental%20Health%20Day/PTSD%202013.pdf is current and published by Defence. Yes our troops who served/are serving in Afghanistan have helped people. Some ways are lasting particularly in construction http://www.defence.gov.au/op/afghanistan/gallery/2010/20100525/index.htm . Our Government must look after the next of kin of those diggers killed in Afghanistan and provide support for those wounded or injured (including suffering PTSD). There should be no repeat of the post Vietnam experience of blaming diggers for the war or ignoring them. Regards Pete Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 11 November 2013 1:48:30 PM
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There is a fifth way of remembering - and that is by refusing to get caught up in all this remembrance propaganda.
That means being alert to how the incessant obsession to Remember, Remember, Remember is in itself a celebration of war (while pretending it isn't), ensuring that war holds the most sacred place of all in the cultural narrative and that the soldier becomes the embodiment of the most glorious person that our culture can produce. All of this sacred propagandising smothers genuine criticism of the corrupt values that keep leading us into one immoral war after another after another. And this can only lead to one thing - MORE WAR. Posted by Killarney, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 12:44:40 AM
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Hi Killarney,
While I understand your sentiments and find war immoral, I do believe that Australia and the International community has a responsibility to acknowledge the history and the causalities that war causes. Whether this is done through ANZAC or Remembrance Day is really up to individuals and the vets themselves. No one is forced to participate. If one looks at the history of war it is enough to put on off war for ever and these two days are about the people involved in the war not the war itself. What is equally important as I said above is the care and response that we as a society give the vets and their families. Wars are politically driven causalities and death is not so lets look after the soldiers and their families Posted by romingfree, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 8:40:45 AM
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