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Promises, promises: what's in a promise? : Comments

By Clarrie Burke, published 30/10/2013

Tony Abbott is poised to break core promises on stopping the boats.

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How are we supposed to respond to almost endless broken non core promises?
Perhaps if the govt releases much less information, we may never ever know, if we were cleverly duped or not?
Perhaps we expect coalition politicians to lie to us, but voted them back in anyway, due to one Kevin Rudd and his unusually successful, almost single handed campaign, to undermine/destroy his own party, just to bring Julia Gillard down, or prevent her winning for labour, with a more than useful majority, in 2010?
Which in turn, might have prevented the landslide loss this time round?
Some voters have very short or terminal memories, otherwise politicians of all political stripes, simply would never ever be able to get away with the breaking of non core promises, or the non-consential privatization, that seems to be the conservatives/fiscal conservatives particular bag.
First they win with lots of sleight of hand or if you will, non core promises? That has to be followed by an audit, and many necessarily shelved programs? And in-between, this or that privatization possibility, (trust me I'm a politician) raised for discussion or HARMLESS review?
Mostly to gauge the reaction or strength of opposition?
i.e., would this proposal, if enacted, result in an election loss to us next time round? It's not just broken promises that are problematic in politics, but the inherent dishonesty, of too many, to clever by half, politicians?
And with the last point foremost in my mind! I believe Kevin Rudd ought to resign from all politics or be disendorsed!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 9:34:22 AM
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The author is out of touch. Boat arrivals are significantly decreased and getting less each month. Abbott has only been in office for six weeks for gods sake. Yet, the author, who is happy to see the boats continue to arrive, also wants to blame Abbott for not stopping them by now?? There's no end to the confused and tortured logic of the angry Left.
Posted by Atman, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 10:23:11 AM
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There are a number of lessons to be drawn from this article. I suggest that a few of them are as follows:

1. The Coalition will say and do anything if they think that it will return them to the power they manifestly think is their entitlement.

2. Australia's sorry record with regard to its international obligations is once more in the full glare of publicity. It is difficult to decide which is worse: Australia's disregard for its international treaty obligations; or the appalling disregard that the mainstream media has for those breaches.

3. One cannot rely on the Labor Party for a principled and consistent policy. It is so compromised by its own policy failures and backflips that one can never take their pronouncement sat face value, and opposition to the government's policies, while fully justified, sounds hollow and hypocritical when coming from the mouths of Labor politicians.

4. All the well founded fears about Abbott have been borne out in a remarkably short space of time.

5. Morrison's arrogant disregard for the rights of the people who elected this government to be fully informed about boat arrivals etc is symptomatic of a wider disregard for democracy that underpins so much of Labor/Coalition thinking.

Thee is much else, but these serve to make the point.
Posted by James O'Neill, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 10:43:14 AM
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In June. July, August the numbers of boat arrivals were nearly 1000 a week, now we are well below 100 a week. Whatever the left whingers are claiming, the reality is that Labor was unable to stop the boats, and the coalition clearly is.

Now that the flood of refugees has slowed, it will be easier to deal with the few that are left, already most are off shore and a portion already repatriated to Sri Lanka.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 2:36:11 PM
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Seriously, why should anyone be concerned when a politician breaks (what is laughably termed) a promise?

There is no sanction, no punishment involved for the politician concerned.

Only when we require our politicians to regard their policy "manifesto" as a binding commitment to the people of Australia will we change this laughable situation.

Which will never happen, of course. At least, not in my own lifetime.

But chickens do eventually come home to roost, as many governments around the world have discovered in the past few years. Lying to the people has a finite life. One day, the government of the day will find themselves in direct confrontation with the people they have treated with such barefaced, blatant, malice-aforethought disregard for so long.

It will hurt. That's a promise.
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 2:48:59 PM
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Rotten to the core is a widely-used term. It will surely become Abbott's epitaph.

Now that Phoney is wearing the crown of Prime Ministership, it appears to me that he has become confused. Perhaps he's not sure whether he is the Pope or the Prime Minister.

I'm sure this came about because of his priestly sojourn. Yes, one minute he was walking along the road trod by Jesus and next he had a Road to Damascus experience (not to be confused with a place where nerve gas is being trialed) and suddenly he became a politician!

The human body and its accompanying grey matter can only take so much! I mean his grey matter was assaulted by the Jesuits and by pugilists and then he was ministered to by various Ministers principle of which was the war-loving John Howard. Oh, what a feeling!

Whatever core promises Phoney has made have been frequently changed. He is a serial changer of promises. He might next decide to become the Sugar Plum Fairy!

Ah, Phoney, who art thou?
Posted by David G, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 3:55:41 PM
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Here is an interesting section from "Aljazeera" written by Andrew Thomas.

"An argument often made by politicians in Australia is that many "asylum-seekers" are not actually seeking asylum from persecution but rather from poverty, that they are economic migrants rather than genuine refugees.

Mehak - to my surprise - agrees. Most of those on the boat he took to Australia, he thinks, were planning to give false accounts of their lives in order to qualify for refugee status.

He doesn't think any of them deserved it."

Mehak is a refugee from Afghanistan.
Posted by Sparkyq, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 5:16:15 PM
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Clarrie why not save us all your rubbish and just say you do not like Tony Abbott?
David G same for you instead of trying to be smart and looking an insulting fool just say you do not like Abbott?
It's delicious that Tony is now PM and there is nothing either of you can do until the next election. Then you will both have to huff and puff some more haha!
These illegals go through umpteen countries to get on our welfare gravy train and don't they know how to whinge! If we are so terrible they can stay in Indonesia or Malaysia.
Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 5:42:50 PM
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In the mean time Tony Terrific is becoming more popular than ever and the labor fools led by Power Bill as unpopular as they ever have been.

I thought the article a sad reflection of the lack of policy and the usual personality attack politics of the shallow lefties.

Something that has led labor and the socialists to the edge of the political abyss. Such attitudes, if they continue, will see them all fall into that particular hell. And good riddance.
Posted by imajulianutter, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 7:22:21 PM
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I would have voted for Tony Abbott if he had promised to sink the damn boats!

Most of the asylum seekers are fleeing hell-holes, seeking a better life in Australia. What they do not realize is that they are carriers of the virus that is destroying their country of origin, the virus of Islam. They do not understand that the reason Australia is a nice place to live, is mainly due to the absence of Islam.

Do a Google search of "Islam in Europe" to see what our probable future in Australia is, as the intolerance of Islam shows up more and more in the second and third generation of immigrants. Europe is probably lost, as non-integration is one of the major requirements in the Koran - the rest of us are inferior, and must eventually convert, be enslaved, or killed. These are the rules from Allah, and are not negotiable.

When the Black Death ravaged Europe in the 11th and 12th centuries, many cities closed their gates to all comers, as a protective measure. I realize that this option is not available to us, but at the very least we should be showing more concern.
Posted by Beaucoupbob, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 4:31:43 PM
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