@David Singer
#1 "Yet Israel is the only one whose legitimacy and existence is still being challenged in 2013."
#2 "Jew-hatred would have nothing to do with those taking this position would it?"
Concerning #1, and you would have to be having a laugh. Iraq is buggered. Syria ditto. Lebanon is periodically taken to pieces, and Saudi Arabia is running scared.
Concerning #2, and, no, speaking for myself Jew-hatred is something I am gratefully without, although I do have my reservations about Zionism. You would be doing yourself and what you write no end of good if you would stop conflating the two.

You know. I am beginning to think that the only "country" in the middle east that is illegitimate is israel.

They refuse to set their borders.
They have no constitution.
They are a religious theocracy.
They possess weapons of mass destruction.
They refuse to sign up to any disarmament or weapon control treaties.
They would not exist without the support of the septics.
They stole the land to make their country.
They continue to steal land to expand their country.
They include many people like singer who want to steal all the land right up to the Jordan river.
They kill thousands of people including many innocent civilians in retaliation for a few firecrackers that rarely hurt anyone.
Their intelligence services kidnap, murder and use stolen passports.

I could go on but im feeling a bit sick.
Sick of israeli propaganda and lies. Sick of the demonisation, oppression and destruction of the Palestinians. Sick of apologists like singer coming here and spouting the same old rubbish over and over again.

So, what we have here is a case of Saudi conspiracy to topple the good king of Jordan - may God bless him and his country with long life and prosperity.

Nobody needs or wants the headache of having the radical and hostile Palestinians as their citizens. King Hussein was wise to renounce them and their cursed territory - and King Abdullah is intelligent enough to follow in his father's footsteps, rather than listen to this adversarial Saudi advice.

No Arab-Jewish conflict would be resolved by throwing the occupied territories on Jordan (or Egypt): all that would happen is that within a few months the Palestinians would riot, overthrow the king, bring Jordan into chaotic civil-war, enforce Shariah law, then end up with the same conflict with Israel, forcing Israel to re-occupy that land and perhaps the whole of Jordan... I suspect that's what Singer is hoping for.

Yuyutsu, trying to guess what Singer is hoping for could be the topic of an OLO article.

In his small Machiavellian mind lurk many evil plans and among them is the fanatical desire to drive everyone on OLO crazy.

What I want to know is what has Australia ever done that is bad enough to have Singer constantly bleating on our doorstep about the purity and self-righteousness of God's Children in the Holy Land, holy to lots of religious devotees it seems?

Crazy Benny should offer our Singer a post, take him off our hands, give us some desperately needed relief!

Perhaps Singer could run a prison hell where the Palestinians dwell! Perhaps he could read thousands of his OLO articles to them each day as punishment.

No, I withdraw that idea. We have already suffered enough and the Palestinians much more so!

Good to be informed there is no common ground in negotiations. No progress possible as usual. Nothing to see here.

Variables are required in the Middle East - for example US threats are causing Syria to divest itself of chemical weapons.

In the case of the Israel-Palestine+Hezbollah question about the only thing that will give talks a nudge is Iran acquiring the Bomb.

#David G

You wrongly state:

"But the current PLO, which is a nest of vipers and scorpions and collaborators, is a corrupt creation of the U.S. and Israel, Singer"

The PLO was created in 1964 by Russia and Egypt.

The PLO had three years to create their own State in the West Bank and Gaza when not one Jew lived there - but did not do so.

That missed golden opportunity and the rejection of two further offers made in 2000/2001 and 2008 makes any successful conclusion to the current negotiations seem pretty hopeless.

You further state:

"But the Israelis are the recognized 'world champions' at ignoring International Laws, U.N. Resolutions, etc, (the U.S. comes a close second)."

Care to provide any specific examples?

#david f

You are entitled to your opinion - but the majority opinion appears to recognise Israel as the only democracy in the Middle East,

#mikk

Sorry to hear you feel sick.

You obviously need a dose of some good news from the illegitimate Jewish State:

1. Israel Corporation subsidiary IC Green Energy has inaugurated a facility in New Jersey to produce gasoline from natural gas. The plant can produce up to 100,000 gallons (440,000 liters) of gasoline a year. Cars will be able to use the lower cost, less emissions fuel without any modifications

2. 19-year-old Israeli, Shahar Shenhar, has become 2013 world champion at Magic:

3. Israel’s Elfi Tech monitors your pulse rate, respiratory rate, blood pressure, blood flow and much more, non-invasively at any time with the help of a sensor smaller than two dollars.

Knowing Elfi Tech is there should hopefully assist you overcoming your severe depression.

#Yuyutsu

Gosh - if your predictions for creating a bi-national exclusive Arabs only State in the West Bank and Jordan are anywhere near correct - can you imagine what would happen if there was a bi-national Jewish/Arab state created in the West Bank and Israel?

#plantagenet

Iran's acquisition of the bomb will threaten the US, Europe and every Arab State - not only Israel.