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Are you equally okay? Political discourse, inequality and suicide : Comments

By Rob Cover, published 13/9/2013

World Suicide Prevention Day and R U OK Day are timely reminders of the fact that vulnerability and resilience are 'unevenly distributed' in this country

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A rehash of the perennial leftie social theory identifying "disadvantage" and "inequality" (whatever they actually mean) as the cause of all social ills.

Not only is this flat out wrong but an examination of simple and obvious facts show that this could not be the case.

I suggest strongly to the author that he has an OBJECTIVE not ideological look at the problem of suicide. Twisting all social and psychological problems to fit your particular political leanings may be gratifying to oneself but does nothing to further intelligent debate.
Posted by Atman, Friday, 13 September 2013 10:46:42 AM
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..."Resile" is a word that springs to mind. Abbott sees in the "Gay Front", a self seeking political interest group which is overly-represented.

...The "Gay problem" is a medical phenomenon and should be restricted to that specialty for treatment and counselling as clients.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 13 September 2013 12:14:57 PM
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A very caring and insightful article about how hard it is to be born gay, and grow into a confident, valued member of society.

The author is right to be worried about the continued suicides of gay people not being helped by a new conservative government...especially one headed by an ex-student priest.

Diver Dan shows his continued ignorance about homosexuality by dragging up the ancient belief that anyone could ever 'cure' gay people.

I, and many others, have personally known really young children, who were too young to even know what being gay was, who we knew were gay right from the start.

My best friend's son announced he was gay at 19 to his shocked, very religious family with a homophobic father.
No one else was shocked...

People are born gay Diver Dan
Who on earth would choose to live the gay lifestyle, or have gay sex, if they were really attracted to the opposite sex?

It is because of people like you that young, confused gay people have such a hard time adjusting to their reality.
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 14 September 2013 12:41:19 AM
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OK Atman. Are you seriously suggesting that any social phenomenon can be seen through a non-ideological lens? If so please put up up or shut up. I'd be fascinated to hear your perspective on the 'objective not ideological' explanation for the problem of suicide please?
Posted by Jandamarra, Saturday, 14 September 2013 12:51:05 PM
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The more society promote the permissive and homosexual lifestyle the greater the suicide rate is. Most that I know practicing homosexuality were previously in hetrosexual relationship. Susie pushes her usual dogmas. I doubt whether the suicide rate changes between conservative and incompetent Governments. This article is more pushing a political line. I suggest unemployment which under Labour debt, is inevitable has a far greater affect on suicide rates than ones support of 'gay ' marriage. Men and women lose a sense of self worth when they can't provide for families. The other way to prevent suicide is to teach kids a few morals and the perils mutliple relationships which leave them used and feeling dirty despite secular dogma. No amount of dogma can wipe away a person's conscience no matter how the social engineers try. The vast majority of prison suicide deaths are a result of broken relationships.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 14 September 2013 3:12:02 PM
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Would the risk of suicide of gays ever come within cooee of the risk of AIDS for instance?

Suseonline would know, she is OLO's expert on gays.

Homosexuality is fully protected by law. Any even slight perception of discrimination no matter how unlikely receives enormous publicity.

Homosexuality is over-exposed. Doubtless only the activists who crave attention would say otherwise.

What is more likely is that the causes that lead to Australia's high ranking world-wide for male suicide apply the same for all males regardless of their sexuality. What are those factors and what can be done about them?
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 14 September 2013 4:39:53 PM
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