WmTrevor,

I shaved for years, practically every day during my army career but these days I have a beard and only shave around the edges when necessary.

Shaving is an unnatural act, an act not intended by nature.

Tony,
Re. philosophy.
Professors Gaukrogers and Mac Dermott among others at Syd. Uni.

>>Shaving is an unnatural act, an act not intended by nature.<<

Wrong again: shaving is a natural act because it occurs in nature. Shaving would be only be unnatural if it only occurred outside of nature. Nature does not and cannot have intentions for reasons I've already explained to you. Because nature lacks agency it's impossible to meaningfully define 'natural' and 'unnatural' in terms of intentions: it simply nonsensical to do so.

Your willful ignorance saddens me: it is unfortunate when people can't learn - but when people won't learn because their minds are too closed to absorb new information that is a tragedy.

>>Professors Gaukrogers and Mac Dermott among others at Syd. Uni.<<

Obviously they didn't do a very good job if they left you with the erroneous impression that nature has agency. Or maybe you just weren't a very good student and you were daydreaming when you should have been paying attention to your lectures on agency.

Unfortunately the academics you named do not appear to be currently employed at Sydney Uni:

http://sydney.edu.au/arts/philosophy/staff/academic.shtml

But if you get in touch with Prof. Peter Anstey, Dr. Sam Baron, Prof. David Braddon-Mitchell, Dr. Matt Far, Dr. Kristie Miller, Dr. Luke Russell, Assoc. Prof. Nick Smith or Dr. Caroline West then they should be able to clear up your little misunderstanding for you.

Cheers,

Tony

Then Tony, define unnatural.

How does shaving, as performed by mankind occur in nature?

It looks like the Labor mob didn't learn anything from the recent federal elections ( I believe votes Labor received were the lowest in 100 years). In the ACT, Labor is at it again trying to bypass Federal Government constitutional powers:

"TONY EASTLEY: The new Federal Coalition Government's position on marriage equality is already being put to the test, with the ACT Government promising to introduce legislation this week to legalise same-sex marriage.

The ACT Attorney General, Simon Corbell, says the Territory Government is delivering an election promise and plans to introduce the bill on Thursday.

He says the Territory Government is ready to fend off any challenges to the legislation.

Rachel Carbonell reports. "

Ref: http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2013/s3849198.htm

*Note article author takes part nearer to the end of the discussion.

Phew... I'm glad that's been cleared up, Is Mise.

But doesn't that leave us in the position of thinking you believe only people who never cut any of their hair can get married?

That's Sikh.

Not at all, lots of things that we do were never intended by nature; like wearing shoes, man being the only animal that has decided for itself to provide foot protection.