@Is Mise, "Penetrative sexual intercourse between males is an unnatural act,...". Do you mean anal sex? In the lead up to the election I don't think I heard one mention of "anal sex" when the issue was being discussed. It would be good if that could be forced out of politicians' mouths more often. Also good to see you use the word "homosexual" instead of the misuse of that other word.

>>Penetrative sexual intercourse between males is an unnatural act<<

What does that have to do with marriage? Anal sex and gay marriage are not synonymous terms. And if gay marriages are less worthy because the couple have anal sex, where does that leave heterosexual marriages where the couple have anal sex?

Cheers,

Tony

"Penetrative sexual intercourse between males is an unnatural act,...". Do you mean anal sex? In the lead ....
Posted by Roscop,

Yes, but I like to get a bit literary!

>>Penetrative sexual intercourse between males is an unnatural act<<

What does that have to do with marriage? Anal sex and gay marriage are not synonymous terms. And if gay marriages are less worthy because the couple have anal sex, where does that leave heterosexual marriages where the couple have anal sex?
Cheers,
Tony"

It leaves them performing an unnatural act and thus debasing marriage.

Tony, "Anal sex and gay marriage are not synonymous terms." Yes not synonymous but in one direction doesn't one imply a strong association with the other? I don't think heterosexual people would have any problems with the association of natural sex with traditional marriage irrespective of whether it occurs.

The way I see it marriage is an officially solemnized relationship, an ideal, where there is complementarity between the spouses which is derived from the gender of each and that is the essence of it (that many fail from the start or some time down the track has nothing to do with it). The chemistry within the union can only be got from that complementarity. Marriage distinguishes the relationship from ALL other forms of relationships

If heterosexuals or homosexuals wish to enjoy anal or oral sex it is nobody else's business. As long as all parties are consenting adults let them enjoy what they will. If anybody doesn't wish to engage in such practices they certainly don't have to, but they have no business deciding what others should do. 'Unnatural' or 'natural' are value judgments which should not be put on others.

The old Victorian adage still goes.

"Do what you will as long as you don't do it in the street where it might frighten the horses.

>>It leaves them performing an unnatural act and thus debasing marriage.<<

So logically we should exclude heterosexuals from marriage as well, right? Because they perform unnatural acts and thus debase marriage. And if we don't let gays get married in case they debase it then why should we let straights? Doesn't really seem fair does it?

>>Yes not synonymous but in one direction doesn't one imply a strong association with the other?<<

Anal sex doesn't imply any association with gay marriage... and gay marriage doesn't imply any association with anal sex. You guy always seem to forget that about half of gay people are women. Do you think lesbians have much anal sex? Do you think getting married would affect how much anal sex they had?