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Climate: the problem that dare not speak its name : Comments

By Lyn Bender, published 13/8/2013

But how can we mitigate a problem, if we are in effect denying and avoiding it by ignoring it?

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If the domestic economy was paramount, we would mine the Great Barrier Reef for its probable bonanza of extremely low carbon products, which in common commercial use, would create four times less total carbon, than those products we import and use.
If carbon is killing the reef, then surely the very first response of genuine environmentalists, would be to select the lowest possible carbon producing products!
i.e., Traditional Australian sweet light crude, which in common commercial use, produces four times less TOTAL carbon than current imported highly refined products.
If carbon is contributing to climate change, then surely reducing it by 75%, would be a very useful first step, and indeed, provide us with a means to pay for a conversion to a carbon free economy, far sooner than would otherwise be possible.
Currently, and thanks largely to the efforts of the author and or fellow travelers, we simply don't have that choice, but continue to remain the captive market of foreign cartels!
Look, we most of us, can't ride bikes, much beyond the urban environment.
And public transport, is simply not an option for most urban dwellers.
Who have no other choice but to live where it's still affordable.
Living costs have remained largely static or have gone down, except for housing.
A decade ago the median house cost around four times the average salary, now its better than seven times!
A factor that forces people further and further out, and more and more dependent on the family wagon to get to work, transport the kids to school, take care of the weekly shop, and remain the only reliable means to transport a family member to hospital, in the event of a sudden emergency.
If we could have the so called greens just face facts, we could progress this conversation and what remedial action is actually available to us, far faster!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 1:07:18 PM
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Good article Lyn. I ask the same questions and lament your point "Rudd urged us to celebrate that the move from the carbon tax to a floating ETS will save families from $380 to $430 a year. This amounts to one dollar a day!"

Too many of us are 'frogs in warm water', and tight arsed ones at that. When it gets too hot and we start to die off in heat waves and climate disasters it could well be too late to cut off our energy guzzling habits and coal exports.

But don't lose heart, there's enough of us who care and see the truth. We still have a vestigial carbon price and there'll be a slim but growing majority who'll back ramping it up as the weather gets worse and the 20 or so countries with carbon pricing grows to hundreds.

To all who care, just don't vote Liberal for the Senate!
Posted by Roses1, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 1:12:19 PM
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Peter Lang
Played with the timeline in the item you linked.. very interesting.. tnks for that.. However, I think its a bit optimistic that it'll be gone by next year.. some of AGW stuff is so deeply entrenched that nothing short of a major, obvious change in the physical system - ie, global temperatures clearly going down - will shift it. This may yet happen, but until it does there will always be someone talking about climate..
Posted by Curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 1:23:28 PM
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Roses1
well when we do start to die off in heat waves and climate disasters then you'll be able to say I told you so .. in the meantime consider this - that the strength of storms and temperature of heat waves are just factors in determining death rates, and may not even be the most important factors.. other factors include changes in building codes, use of air conditioning and changes to procedures for caring for elderly people.
Posted by Curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 1:29:07 PM
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I hear the feral unicorn problem isn't getting a whole lot of attention either... why is that?
Posted by Jon J, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 1:32:59 PM
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A MILLION YEARS OF CLIMATE CHANGE WITHOUT HUMANS AND CO2
http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2013/07/17/a-million-years-of-climate-change-without-humans-and-co2-ian-ruthrford-plimer/

“Okay, here’s the bombshell.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/home-garden-articles/earth-you/study-less-climate-change-glob/16194684

The volcanic eruption in Iceland ,

… Since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet – all of you.

Of course, you know about this evil carbon dioxide
that we are trying to suppress – it’s that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans and all animal life.

http://intellihub.com/2013/08/09/us-military-caught-manipulating-social-media-running-mass-propaganda-accounts/
http://earthchangesmedia.com/?wysija-page=1&controller=email&action=view&email_id=133&wysijap=subscriptions

http://www.antigmofoods.com/2013/05/monsanto-buys-leading-bee-research-firm.html?m=1

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/un-announces-that-0-00c-warming-since-the-year-2000-is-unprecedented/

http://www.naturalnews.com/041592_scientific_fraud_research_papers_junk_science.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/036756_depopulation_agenda_eugenics_survivor.html#ixzz2bCQoRBBI
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 4:37:04 PM
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