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The critical election issue: population : Comments

By Jenny Goldie, published 12/8/2013

With one or two notable exceptions, our political parties are not acknowledging that population lies at the heart of most issues.

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Marilyn, RED CARD for playing the man (or in this case the woman) and not the ball! Off the playing field for you. If you have nothing to contribute to the topic other than personal attacks, you should not disturb the quiet discussion here.
That's like saying David Suzuki should shut up about sustainability because he has 6 children.

Jenny has adopted half her children in any case so I think you need to check your slush file!
Posted by Peter Strachan, Monday, 12 August 2013 3:43:42 PM
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Well done Divergence. Your post of 12.25 pm penetrated "Cheryl"'s cover and smoked out Malcolm King, whose reply concedes that he is Cheryl.

King is a publicist who writes and places articles for clients. As I have pointed out previously, his page on LinkedIn includes the claim that he wrote and placed "$17K" of articles for one client. He is also very active in electronic media.
Posted by Livio, Monday, 12 August 2013 4:24:49 PM
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Marilyn

Jenny read The Population Bomb after her only biological child was born and thereafter adopted three children (from Korea, Vietnam and an Aboriginal) and long-term fostered an African-American child. They're all adults now. She has six grandchildren of varying hues, only two of which are biological so she's ahead of the game in terms of population reduction.
Posted by popnperish, Monday, 12 August 2013 5:02:16 PM
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According to the July figures from the ABS, more than one third of the Australian workforce is employed part time. That is a massive level of underemployment - well over 3 million people - many of whom want to work full time. Add to that older people who are keen to work but don't show up on the statistics and there are an awful lot of people who could be contributing to the economy without recourse to immigration.

It is known that the birthrate in educated societies drops, so why are politicians so intent on siding with vested interests against the common wisdom of the Australian community by forcing up our population? We don't have to increase our population become more productive (the booming coal industry employs tens of thousands of people fewer than it used to), and we don't have to bring people into the country to feed them with our produce. In fact we don't even feed out own population as it stands, as Coles and Woolies are forcing our producers to the wall and importing much of the stuff we used to grow ourselves.
Posted by Candide, Monday, 12 August 2013 7:09:16 PM
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A Vote for Kelvin Thompson Labour and the Stable Population Party is a "no brainer" !

No more lies or wishful thinking .

Ralph
Posted by Ralph Bennett, Monday, 12 August 2013 8:32:25 PM
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What does SPP and SPA plan to do, if in their idea of nativist nirvana, Australia's population declines?

This was the question put to Jill Quirk by Bernard Salt on the ABC's "Big Ideas" http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2013/07/29/3810642.htm (NB it was quite clear what the "panel" thought of SPA, from the looks of sheer contempt and at times anger)

Both population and unemployment would rise in the short term if desired population and immigration restriction measures were in place.

It would require breaking of Working Holiday Visa agreements or capping, capping of international students, 457s, NZs and returning Australian citizens, break international treaties etc. and consequent quid pro quo measures would force Australian citizens to return home causing a massive spike in NOM, thus population.

Salt cited Eastern Germany, however he probably meant eastern Europe e.g. Bulgaria, Russia, Serbia etc.. that have declining populations.

According to SPP/SPA etc. this should be a good thing with many positives for a nation and its environment?

Definitely not, economic basket cases, tax base is disappearing fast with higher demands upon the state with ageing population, brain drain, emigration, environmental management and infrastructure issues, i.e. although less use, unable to maintain, and accordingly infrastructure is crumbling..... (once well into the EU accession pathways inafrastructure is something the EU funds),

EU does have some solutions for ageing and declining populations, labour mobility and more external immigration. Note they do not describe the free movement of EU citizens as "immigration", but labour mobility, except the UK govt. of course who have counterparts of SPA/SPP, Population Matters pushing their John Tanton white nativist philosophy.

This advocacy of lower or restricted immigration and population growth policies, and fighting to stop new immigration bills in the US, fits with the strategy of stopping non European types diluting our race, and meanwhile we can worship at the altar of "blood and soil"...... sounds more like Nazi Germany no? Or if you want some sci fi type religion or belief join the Scientologists....
Posted by Andras Smith, Monday, 12 August 2013 10:06:45 PM
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