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Saving Julian Assange : Comments

By Lyn Bender, published 7/8/2013

Perhaps the final irony for Assange would lie in the conflict of interest between being head of Wikileaks the exposer of secrets, and joining the keepers of secrets and parliamentary spin as an elected Senator.

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but wouldn't it be the ultimate irony if Assange were elected, and found to hold the balance of power in a hung parliament, and the foreign minister became dispensable to the survival of the Labor Party by Assange's yea or nay?
Posted by SHRODE, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 11:36:52 AM
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With regard to Assange, Australian politicians like a good puppets will do what America want them to do.
Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:32:35 PM
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Assange was right to expose all the double dealing, like we did not know it went on. He is facing charges in an independant democracy but believes himself above the law, so he scurries of to the embassy of an undemocratic country. Gee no matter how he or his supporters twist and turn they are the facts.
Spoilt brat that he is he uses the law just as he has complained others of doing. Now he is stuck! The Brits can wait him out and then treat him as he deserves. Jailed for running and then off to face the music in Sweden.
99% of his supporters would go anyone else facing a similar charge, is that ironic or what?
Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:48:32 PM
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We should keep praying for Julian's safety and freedom.

As for being elected, Assange is a good bargain because the best possible politician is one who does nothing - I wish we could also import Israel's former prime-minister, Ariel Sharon who now lies in a coma since 2006.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 1:24:59 PM
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It would be good to leave the personality and emotional dimensions out of it.

We should be strongly approving of anyone who comes forward to represent us. That is almost regardless of the person's politics, background and so on.

One of the very difficult problems confronting modern society is the disengagement of people with the political process. On an Insight program not so long ago, some in an audience of young adults voiced their exasperation with politics and political representation, saying that they were not heard and their views counted for naught.

Arguably, some media commentators play on and feed that alienation to suit their own short term agendas. As well as effectively disenfranchising the young people who made the comments, such frustration and beliefs can lead to people taking other ways to make themselves heard and understood. A few might follow the examples of suicide-mass murder that the feckless, irresponsible media also sensationalise, again for short term gains of increasing their audience.

So lets leave out the nonsense aimed at sledging and putting off Assange and others from putting themselves up to represent others. An earnest person, a railway fettler with good intent is every bit as good as a barrister with many thousands of kilometres of international travel. Even where we might disagree with them, they are doing what they should do in a democracy and in so doing they model behaviour youth could follow.

We want all people to have a sound citizenship and civic education and to participate. There are some who want the reverse of that and preferably, limitations on freedom of speech too so their views can hold sway.

I do not believe that Assange or Cannold has the maturity and balance to represent an electorate. Both bounce between very narrow rails of prejudice and self-conceit. It is impossible to imagine either being able to listen and put themselves in another person's shoes.

Assange was treated badly by the Australian government. One really needs dual citizenship to travel, because the Australian government cannot be relied upon to represent and advocate for its citizens abroad.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 1:31:19 PM
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Dear Onthebeach,

<<One of the very difficult problems confronting modern society is the disengagement of people with the political process.>>

'Modern society'? Only?

Ordinary people of ALL ages never had any power about the political process: even since their ancestors, the apes, it was the Alpha males who had a say and nobody else.

The thin guise of 'democracy' is but a propaganda tool - it never existed: even choosing a monarch at random would be an improvement on that!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 1:42:52 PM
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JBowyer - You are entitled to your opinions but I see a form of gullibility in that you would believe anything the politicians and bureaucrats would tell people, don't you think it is the right of people to inform when others are so BLATANTLY lying to us and be safe from retribution for doing so.

One thing politicians worldwide are scared of that is there dirty secrets and lies becoming public knowledge.

Nearly all wars America was and is involved in. There involvement was due to lying to congress and the public.

Sorry for misplaced trust.

Assange was only the messenger.

Don't shoot me I am only the messenger.
Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 3:24:57 PM
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Why would anyone want to save him?

You'd have to be pretty gullible to believe Assange ever did anything for anyone but Assange.

Still we wouldn't have the government we have, or the polls we are seeing, if many weren't that gullible.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 3:51:26 PM
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I think Julian Assange is lucky to be alive.

He should have faced the firing squad long ago. He is a thief, a national security liability, a hacker, a traitor and a dealer in stolen goods.

Its very easy to “socialize” his crimes on the basis of someone else’s moral crusades, like whatever, he is a hero because he blew the whistle on big, bad somebody.

No, he broke the laws of Australia and much of the developed world. Even the Guardian published some of his emails, but hey, the hypocrites can support Julian one minute and then when things get a bit hot they turn on him. Just gotta love the Guardian for sticking to their moral compass!

Does anyone else see the irony of Julian hiding in the embassy of a non democratic country?

I wonder also if the moral outrage brigade has spotted the “up for a Senate spot” as the “only thing that can save Julian?” Gullible?

Bring him back to Australia, not for a Senate seat but to charge him and bang him up
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 5:36:44 PM
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It is interesting how some who supported him are now penning criticisms of him. When it comes down to winning those comfy sinecures in the Senate he is seen as competition for the Greens. Maybe he will attract some of the disaffeceted-with-everything vote, taking some votes from the Greens.

Assange is a flawed character. However PM Gillard and her Attorney General were very wrong to publicly cut him loose and infer that he wouldn't be accepted back into Australia. That was seriously wrong of Gillard. It is unimaginable that any other leader of a democratic nation would do such a terrible thing. Gillard should have resigned and so should her Attorney General.

That very regrettable behaviour by the Gillard government meant that never again could an Australian citizen depend on support from his own country should bad luck or misfortune befall him, or even where charged with an offence while overseas. However drug criminals get support from the hand-wringers and Labor. Maybe you have to be a woman or ethnic, then Carr comes running. That is Labor, PC ideology and uneven representation.

Regardless, that Assange even contemplated nominating for a seat sends a positive message to the disaffected at large. Assange's worth for the job and motivation will be judged by voters. However he wouldn't be the worst villain to park himself in Parliament that is for sure.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 8:12:36 PM
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