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Is it time to stop being patriotic? : Comments

By Alex Kats, published 2/8/2013

A year later, after 9/11 and the political exploitation of the Tampa incident, xenophobia had crept into our happy society, and people started to be racially and offensively profiled.

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Yuyutsu,
That's not true, my nation was founded on Liberal and social democratic lines, my people still made up 98% of the population when the decision to open admission to other races was made on their behalf, my nation has consistently voted for multiculturalism ever since it's inception.
Mr Kats has deliberately hit below the belt with his references to the treatment of Jews in his plea for mercy for illegal immigrants, my nation has a clear conscience on the matter and a proud record of standing up to totalitarian regimes.
Mr Kats is also talking up "Racism" while ignoring Race, is he seriously putting high IQ Jews on a par with low IQ Afghans and Sri Lankans? If he's any sort of intellectual he'd know that his people succeed in European societies because of their unique biological traits, traits which are absent in South West Asians and Africans.
There will never be a Tamil or Hazara Frank Lowy or Sidney Myer, if you want that calibre of person then look to Israel and the U.S for migrants.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 2 August 2013 6:20:54 PM
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So how many boatloads of Afghans, Iraqi's, Bangladeshis and Tamils is Israel welcoming at the moment, Alex Kats? It is really funny that so many prominent Jews endorse asylum seekers and multiculturalism in every western country, yet they avert their eyes to the fact that Israel only takes Jewish "asylum seekers" and that the Israelis insists that Israel must remain a Jewish state.

Racial/religious preferences in immigration is alright for Jews, but not for Goys? Defending the primacy of Jewish culture is alright for Jews, but not for Australians?

I am sure that a lot of Jews are smart enough to know that the importation of Muslims into western countries has made these societies a lot more unsafe for Jews. Why can't you figure it out? They must be so embarrassed that a Jew like you would have the presumption to wag your fingers at the country that gave your family asylum, and which you now say that you are "ashamed" of. One gets the impression that a lot of anti Semitism is created by Jews like you who have the audacity to tell the people who gave your family succour that we should not be patriotic and care for our own.

I have always admired the Jewish social cohesion and the fact that your people stick up for each other. But when Jews attack their host populations for doing exactly what Jews are renowned for doing for each other, we start to wonder who's side you are on?

When the Jewish state starts taking immigrants from anywhere then Jews can start preaching morality to my people. My apologies to any Jew who thinks that Alex is a drop kick who is an embarrassment to Australian Jews.
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 2 August 2013 7:11:08 PM
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...Well LEGO, I like that idea; Why doesn't Israel take more refo's from the worlds' largest Jewish diaspora, China. That may take the pressure off Australia, as the invasion by the "Yellow Peril" from the North intensifies...
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 2 August 2013 8:16:51 PM
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If I could have my way I would open the doors to people who are willing to leave their religious beliefs behind. A society that is not plagued by the nonsense of religion could be the best society imaginable.
And no it is not the time to stop being patriotic. This is a time when patriotism needs to be made a priority. The lack of patriotism is what got us into the situation we're in now.
Posted by individual, Friday, 2 August 2013 8:48:54 PM
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Well LEGO, I was trying to be diplomatic about it but there you go, yes it is an insufferable, hypocritical and dare I say it "racist" article.
Sadly Alex Kats seems to have taken on a very distorted view of the world but one that's all too common in this country at the moment, it's appalling to think that he has worked as a bureaucrat.
It just doesn't fly anymore, turn things around and you get this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKDeyuM0-Og
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 2 August 2013 9:20:43 PM
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"At the time my parents and their relatives arrived here, the intake was much greater, whilst the population, infrastructure and economy were much smaller."

Yes, there was still room to move, to grow.
There was a manufacturing industry that could use unskilled workers.

Australia was always "xenophobic", it was simply more jocular before.
It's becoming more serious now, because the demographic threat has become more serious.

In the 1940s, Australian-born Australians were 90% of the population, and the rest were mostly British/European.
We had a sense of security, identity and continuity.
We could afford to be a little loose.

Now Australian-born Australians are about 60%, and would be even less in the major cities.

In the 1940s, every 10th person you saw in Sydney might look or sound "foreign".
Now its every *second* person.

And you wonder why the change in mood?

"Policies would also need to make sense and be realistic."

Does that include the policy that says people from 6000 different cultures can all live in peace together in the same city?

"Genuine" Third World refugees don't have $10,000 cash to pay people smugglers.
They also don't bypass a dozen or more countries and all the embassies they contain to try setting foot on Australian soil.

These people don't *want* to be "rescued".
They want to slip unseen into their ethnic city ghettos, living and working there illegally and invisibly.

The people detained "months and years" are those who keep appealing decisions already made within weeks of arrival.

It is time to stop being "utopian".
Posted by Shockadelic, Saturday, 3 August 2013 1:49:44 AM
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