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How we are impoverished, gentrified and silenced : Comments

By John Pilger, published 26/7/2013

Parkhill is a symbol of the two thirds society that is Britain today. The gentrified third do well, some of them extremely well, a third struggle to get by on credit and the rest slide into poverty.

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Loudmouth,

You are ignoring the issue of environmental overshoot, of whether the increased production is sustainable. See

http://www.footprintnetwork.org/images/uploads/Ecological_Footprint_Atlas_2010.pdf

The essential problem is that we are depleting renewable resources faster than they can be replenished. One example is depletion of groundwater. This site discusses the problem in the US, but it is also a very serious issue under wheat growing areas in Northern India and Northern China. No water, no food.

http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/gwdepletion.html

There is also the issue of nonrenewable resources that are vital for agriculture. For example, Australia would suffer drastic cuts in agricultural productivity without phosphate rock. Phosphorus is an essential element for plant growth. The trend in prices indicates that phosphate is becoming scarcer and more expensive.

http://www.infomine.com/investment/metal-prices/phosphate-rock/all/

The lower grade phosphate sources also have problems with heavy metal contamination.

If food is really no problem, why did the FAO World Food Price Index get so high and stay so high?

http://www.fao.org/worldfoodsituation/foodpricesindex/en/
Posted by Divergence, Sunday, 28 July 2013 6:14:33 PM
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The article "How we are impoverished, gentrified and silenced" appears to have been copied from the New Statesman. It appears on John Pilger's website saying "This article first appeared in the New Statesman 25 July 2013": http://johnpilger.com/articles/how-we-are-impoverished-gentrified-and-silenced-and-what-to-do-about-it
Posted by tomw, Monday, 29 July 2013 2:31:51 PM
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Divergence,

In today's paper, an article in the Business section pointed out that the phosphate price had more than halved since about 2007. That doesn't augur well for your Doomsday Scenario :)

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 29 July 2013 4:13:00 PM
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CHERFUL

‘What has driven most of the people on this planet into abject
poverty is male dominated, religious, countries’

What has driven most of the people on this planet into abject poverty is a well-worn set of economic policies designed to hijack each nation’s sovereign wealth and channel it into the coffers of a small minority of rich people. Whether people are living in affluent nations, developing nations, destitute nations or countries riddled by permanent war, the same economic principles apply. It also matters little whether countries are male-dominated and religious or liberal and secular.

Hand in hand with this economic system is a well-oiled propaganda machine designed to brainwash populations into idolizing the rich as symbols of success and as bountiful providers of jobs and prosperity. At the same time, they are brainwashed to despise and distrust other poor people as freeloaders, looters and criminals, as the majority is forced to scramble for whatever limited wealth is left after the rich have taken their share.
Posted by Killarney, Monday, 29 July 2013 6:13:57 PM
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Loudmouth,

As you can see from the graph that I linked to, the phosphate rock price has come down since 2007, but it is still a lot higher than before 2007, say in 2003. It looks a bit like the crude oil situation.

http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/Inflation_Rate/Historical_Oil_Prices_Chart.asp

The low hanging fruit has been picked, leading to shortages until lower grade sources (tar sands and other forms of unconventional oil) could be exploited, but at a cost that is greater than before the crisis.

The commodities expert Jeremy Grantham, the chief investment strategist of Grantham Mayo van Otterloo, frankly admits that he is Malthusian on the basis of commodities trends.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-walker/jeremy-grantham-has-bad-n_b_3208978.html

The issue isn't just one commodity, it is a lot of different resources, so a huge new resource or a technological fix for one of them isn't going to help us that much. If the groundwater is all gone, abundant phosphate won't help us grow more food.
Posted by Divergence, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 10:27:49 AM
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