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Palestine - Jordan/West Bank bi-national state under discussion : Comments

By David Singer, published 16/7/2013

Creating a bi-national State in Jordan has always been the solution most likely to succeed in resolving the conflict between Jews and Arabs.

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#To Geoff of Perth

I am still waiting for you to substantiate your following statement - which I have asked you to do on at least five or six occasions:

" The 'benefits' ex servicemen and women get in Israel is just so vastly different to what is on offer in other countries, especially when we start talking about land and housing."

Why won't you answer?
Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 5:51:11 PM
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Such nonsense! To read an article and comments so blinded by decades of Islamist propaganda at a time in history when the true nature of Jihadist imperialism is being exposed for all to see. Throughout the Middle-East, senior Muslim Clerics are delivering sermons and appearing on TV, telling their followers that Israel must be destroyed, that Jews must be exterminated as mandated by Islam and that It would not matter where in the world Israel was located, it would still be the duty of every Muslim to hunt down the Jews "behind every rock and tree and kill them" ....to quote the Qur'an! One Imam stated that Muslims should cease opposing Israel, stating that its existence conveniently concentrates a large number of Jews in one place, where their extermination will be that much easier. How you do-gooders believe that it is possible for Israel to negotiate peace with Islam, is mind-boggling. Arab leaders use the fundamental strategy of Teqqiya, sanctioned lying in the service of Islam, when they tell Western leaders they want peace and the next day tell their people, in Arabic, that Jihad is the command of Allah and his Messenger. Wake up Mr Singer! The stealth Jihad is well underway in Europe, America and here in Australia. That's why the Arabs reject peace with Israel on any terms other than if Israel submitted to Dhimmitude status and then only as a prelude to annihilation of the Jews. Listen to their own words and stop fantasising!!
Posted by OZSHRINK, Monday, 22 July 2013 9:52:03 AM
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#To OZSHRINK

I understand your frustration and am fully aware of the genocidal and ethnic cleansing intent of hundreds of millions in the Arab world in regard to Jews.

Nevertheless the alternative to a negotiated solution is too horrible to contemplate.

You accuse me of fantasising about a binational state being formed in the West Bank and Jordan. yet that is what exactly transpired between 1950-1967 - although until 1964 there was unanimity of opinion between Jordanians and Palestinians that they were one people - not two peoples.

If that is what they think now - then they can still express their wishes within the framework of a single state- since the attempt to create separate states is doomed to failure after 20 years of failed negotiations.

Short of any better idea - a return to the territorial status quo that existed prior to 1967 taking changed circumstances on the ground since then - still remains the best option available to end a conflict that has been going on for over 130 years.
Posted by david singer, Monday, 22 July 2013 12:10:46 PM
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I would venture to say that hundreds of millions of Arabs would dearly love to never hear the word 'JEWS' ever again. Though I'm not an Arab, I support them 100% and share their wish.

The Singer is a gift that keeps giving and giving. His mischievous mind it a fountain of ideas, all of which screw the Palestinians even more than they have already been screwed by God's Children since 1947.

The Singers tells us that the conflict has been going on for 130 years but I'm sure that if we take 1947 from 2013 we don't get 130 but then maths was never my strong suit!

Is there any possibility that we could all chip in a few dollars and send Singer and Sells on a long, long holiday, perhaps to the Artic? I could see them sharing an igloo and earnestly discussing whether God really did anoint the Jews or whether God really exists.

Only problem is that the heat of the debate might melt the igloo!
Posted by David G, Monday, 22 July 2013 1:11:03 PM
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#David G

2013 minus 130 = 1883 which is roughly when the conflict between Jews and Arabs in Palestine had its genesis.

If you believe the conflict started in 1947 then you have no understanding of the conflict.

Don't worry about my mathematics. Worry about your comprehension, level of understanding and appreciation of the dynamics that have led to the conflict remaining unresolved after many efforts to end it during those 130 years.
Posted by david singer, Monday, 22 July 2013 8:59:17 PM
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Singer, the conflict is unresolved because the Israelis have deliberately and continuously procrastinated and obfuscated and thrown red herring after red herring into the mix while, all the time, they have built illegal settlements as fast as they can, thrown Palestinians out of their homes, built apartheid walls, and engaged in genocide and war crimes.

The thing that amazes me is that they have done all these things yet they, like you, believe that they have nothing to answer for, no compensation to pay to the dispossessed whose land and homes they have swollen, etc.

The Israelis have outdone Hitler in terms of brutality and genocide and they deserve world condemnation for it!

No weasel words from you will ever change that reality!
Posted by David G, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 10:35:43 AM
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