"Anyone believing this proposal to restore the territorial status quo existing before 1948 can happen again in 2013 must have rocks in his head."

So where does that leave those who believe that Israel's boundaries can be based on the territorial status quo existing in Roman times around 2,000 years ago?

Of course there is no prospect of a just solution over the next six months - that's just a straw man fashioned by the Hasbarist troll. But the right thing to do is to consider what justice requires, support every proposal or change in the direction of justice and oppose every proposal or action that preserves or extends injustice.

Justice can be summarised as RETURN. Return to their homeland of all people in exile from Palestine, and return to THEIR homelands of all settlers not born in the territory. All people born in the territory, of whatever ethnic origin, to be free to remain in it. A state covering all the land of Palestine (including the enclave currently sequestered as "Israel") to be a strictly secular democracy in which no citizen is qualified by ethnicity to enjoy enhanced status or condemned by ethnicity to suffer reduced status.

Those are the broad lines of a just solution, but there would be a lot of detail to be settled by negotiation. What is unsustainable and unacceptable is an exclusive "homeland" for any extraterritorial ethnic group whatsoever, including a global "Jewish people" or "Aryan people" or "Arab people", all of which are as ridiculous as a global "Celtic people".

The Pailistinans will not be satisfied till they are the last man standing.Forget the rhetoric about a bi national state or two state outcomes.The Pailistinans don't want any arrangement that will see non Arabs in a position of autonomy. and anyone who thinks otherwise has >>rocks in their head<<

KarlX: "The Palestinans don't want any arrangement that will see non Arabs in a position of autonomy."

So they don't accept a foreign enclave. Nor should they. Would we accept part of Australia being cleared of its inhabitants to be sequestered as a foreign enclave? British invaders already did it once, and we non-Aborigines who didn't invade it but were born into it are still along with Aborigines finding it a challenge to shape it as a nation of equal citizens because the invaders failed to even try.

Dear Emperor

**What is unsustainable and unacceptable is an exclusive "homeland" for any extraterritorial ethnic group whatsoever**

If you combined all populations of the region you would have a majotity moslim population and the long term look at history shows that any state ruled by majority Moslims will favor Moslims to the expense of any other group. If you doubt me ask the Egypruian Copts or whats left of the Iranian Bahá'í and how do you classify someone born in Israel foreign to the region?

Mr Emperor

I not been hearin from you. Has de cat got yor tongue, man?

How de ya propose to guarantee the rites of non-moslims in dis big new moslim state of yors?

I see dat you talk big about **RETURN**
**Return to their homeland of all people** ya say.

Are ya in de travel industree or de transport sectore
and stand to gane big money from bringin all of em back, ay man?