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Rudd (not Labor) can win : Comments

By Graham Young, published 28/6/2013

The polling shows the Liberals dropping 6 percentage points, Labor up 3 percentage points and the Greens up 4. This puts the parties in a similar position to October 2010.

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I remember 1975 as a youngster. I remember all the hype about Whitlam to win, but he got smashed. The people voted alright and judged Labor no longer competent.
Posted by Chris Lewis, Monday, 1 July 2013 6:43:59 PM
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Loudmouth,

I believe that was Antony Green's rendering of the results of the latest Morgan Poll.

(Which is why it was as it was)
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 1 July 2013 6:51:11 PM
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In your dreams, Poirot :)

A record number of women in the Ministry ?

81 Coalition to 63 Labor. Rudd only has to get a dozen more things right, and nothing wrong, and they might be in the game.

Wow, and I had a defeated Gillard team on 110 Coalition to 34 Labor.

A week sure is a long time in politics.
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 9:06:52 AM
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Loudmouth,

Sorry to pop you bubble (and yes, I realise you'll put it down to the "bounce")....but Antony Green was going by this:

http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/morgan-poll-july1-2013-201307010635

Seen any substance from Tony yet?

If you do, be sure to post a link.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 9:21:29 AM
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Seen any action yet by Labor to deal with the corruption that festers in the party and in the unions?

That is why the Greens/Gillard government was on the nose with voters. That and the cold hard fact that many in the community have less spending power - a fact that spin cannot gloss over. How can large increases in government taxes and charges be forgotten on polling day?

Kevin Rudd is magic for a short time. But voters will react on polling day just as they did with Whitlam. Apparent support for Whitlam skyrocketed after the dismissal and supporters believed he might even gain seats! But Whitlam never could get over the stink of past scandals, one being the Khemlani loans affair.

Who has enough front or is it stupidity to say that the present Labor government's scandals are lesser to Whitlam's? Back then, Labor strategists believed that the 'punters' (a tag that shows just what some politicians and commentators think of voters!) had the memory of a gnat and spin could paper over rot. They thought that rhetoric of fear waged against Malcolm Fraser would work its magic. However, voters are not stupid as thought, just patient, and patience over-stretched does not return.

The Left really truly have very little regard for the intelligence of voters and the Left always come believe their own spin. Then when the electorate does what was entirely expected and justified and tosses out corrupt, self-seeking politicians the Left learns nothing, blaming the electorate for being too 'stupid' and not 'progressive'to see the 'light'.

The majority of people are too busy working and taking responsibility themselves for their shelter and keep to engage in the Leftie faux outrage, internet polls and protests. Keep complaining though and the taxpayers will be reminded of the cost of welfare and how some of it is ill-spent.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 9:53:19 AM
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Pedestrian, my panel is very committed, so they are definitely not representative of the public when it comes to issues like an informal vote. However, it might pick up your disillusioned Labor voter. If it does there's not that many of them. I give respondents the option of voting informal and only 1% took that option.

However, before the leadership change, I had spoken to a few Labor voters who had switched to Liberal for the sole purpose of tearing the party down so it could be rebuilt.

I haven't checked to see where they stand on that issue now that the leadership has changed, but after seeing Rudd's performance on the 7.30 Report tonight I can see despair just around the corner again. Abbott is on tomorrow, so I might change my view when I see him, but hard to think of a worse performance from someone who is allegedly mature enough to run the country.
Posted by GrahamY, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 8:23:05 PM
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