Kipp, I agree : )
See you all on another thread...

you surely can't be serious?
Suseonline,
Oh, I'm serious alright & I know I'm not far off the bullseye.

Kipp,
kipp your hands of your privates when you're posting. It might only be verbal but it is still masturbation.

Sorry Poirot, somehow missed your post.

The US debt clock is fascinating, isn't it? Like a reverse countdown to disaster, with zero hour an unknown quantity.

Individual you can spell, clever boy !!

It was nice to read an article that didn't denigrate male values (for a change). One big male value is honor. Surely a male leader with a record as bad as Gillard's and any sense of honor would have lost face and stepped down by now.

But of course women don't 'lose face' like men or have a traditional sense of honor like men so she feels no compunction to stand aside. Her male colleagues who carpet bagged Rudd, of course, have a sense of honor (however malevolent it might be), which would prevent them from serving under Rudd.

So we have a female PM without the honor to step aside (in the face of abysmal failures) and males supporters of the PM whose honor means they couldn't serve under Rudd if she did.

You gotta love the feminization of society. Doing wonders for all of us.

Dane,

I note that John Howard didn't behave honourably when it was obvious he'd run his race.

I recall seeing he and Costello sitting together for an interview prior to the 2007 election - Howard assuring everyone he'd hold Peter's hand for the first six months if they were re-elected.

It was pathetic, actually - and certainly not honourable.