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Carbon - a debate without end : Comments

By Everald Compton, published 4/6/2013

So, I sincerely ask Tony Abbott to take his head out of the political sand and make sure that Emissions Trading happens as a matter of pragmatic responsibility.

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Cohenite

It would appear that have been indulging in a bit of fruit picking here.

Your link:-
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/climate/hqsites/site_data.cgi?variable=maxT&area=aus&station=091311&dtype=raw&period=annual&ave_yr=T

But how about this:

http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/climate/hqsites/site_data.cgi?variable=minT&area=aus&station=091311&dtype=raw&period=annual&ave_yr=T

I leave it to the intelligent reader to figure out the difference.
Actually it is a very nice example of how GHGs affect the climate.
Posted by warmair, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 9:01:18 AM
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Our glittering age of technologism is also a glittering age of scientism. Scientism is not the same thing as science. Science is a blessing, but scientism is a curse.

Science, I mean what practicing scientists actually do, is acutely and admirably aware of its limits, and humbly admits to the provisional character of its conclusions; but scientism is dogmatic, and peddles certainties.

It is always at the ready with the solution to every problem, because it believes that the solution to every problem is a scientific one, and so it gives scientific answers to non-scientific questions.

Owing to its preference for totalistic explanation, scientism transforms science into an ideology, which is of course a betrayal of the experimental and empirical spirit. We are becoming ignorant of ignorance. -- Leon Wieseltier, 19 May 2013
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 9:03:06 AM
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warmair and Taswegian; in May 2013 4 Tasmanian BOM temperature sites had a positive anomaly, while 5 were negative for tmin, and tmax was overall above normal. This means there was a high DTR [Diurnal Temperature Range]. It’s supposed to be the opposite-a low DTR and a warmer minima, according to AGW theory.

It's true some sites are showing a declining DTR over the full range due to increasing tmin, but recently , Australia wide, since 1950, the period of alleged strongest AGW, DTR has been increasing:

http://kenskingdom.wordpress.com/2013/04/12/australia-the-missing-fingerprints-of-greenhouse-warming/

How do you explain that?

Globally mean temperatures are flat:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/04/open-letter-to-the-royal-meteorological-society-regarding-dr-trenberths-article-has-global-warming-stalled/

Your theory needs work.
Posted by cohenite, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 10:19:08 AM
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Quote Spindoc
Scientism is not the same thing as science. Science is a blessing, but scientism is a curse.
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Could not agree more see link below for typical example.

http://watchingthedeniers.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/diy-climate-science-how-the-little-guy-takes-on-establishment-science/
Posted by warmair, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 3:01:16 PM
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