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Adam Goodes - The cutting taunt of a 13-year-old : Comments

By Michael Viljoen, published 27/5/2013

A chorus of ape noises erupted from the stands whenever Eto’o touched the ball. It was the whole stadium chanting, not just a handful of fans.

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Michael – you raise a very good point. Those who believe evolutionary theory to be correct would appear to be stuck between a rock and a hard place on this.

If evolutionists want to claim that there are no significant differences between the different groups/races of people in the world then they have to effectively claim that they believe in some sort of a secular miracle.

How otherwise could it possibly happen that widely separated groups, over long periods of time, have happened, by random mutations, to have evolved to be essentially exactly the same? Why couldn’t it be true that one group of people is closer to our purported ape-like ancestor than another?

Even more problematic for the Darwinian though; if evolutionary theory is correct there is no objective basis for claiming that racism is wrong anyway. In a universe that came into existence unintentionally and that has no meaning or purpose, “morality” is just a construct and has no intrinsic force.

Yes, this girl needs educating but teaching her about evolution won’t help.
Posted by JP, Monday, 27 May 2013 11:41:55 AM
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Biological and social evolution are different and follow different rules. Adam Goodes' outspoken wisdom and Andrew Demetriou's unstinting support is a pivotal moment for social evolution in Australia, which still has a long way to go as we can see in this forum. AFL football is part of who we uniquely are, indigenous participation in it as in all other Australian life is critical to evolution beyond the stain brought here by the original land grabbers.

Other matters arising:

*Those who conflate biological and social evolution are using a language trick to advance a throwback eugenic agenda which was a mainstay of the Nazi holocaust.

*A racial taunt should not be a police matter beyond the need to deal with a breach of the peace, but it is a legitimate concern for MCG security.

*It was not obvious that the "ape" taunt was intended to be race-specific. Terms like "ape" and "knuckle-dragger" are widely used worldwide independently of race. Could be that the child had stepped inadvertently on a mine. Her subsequent statements have reinforced the abused player's good sense, and it is great that Eddie McGuire told her she was still part of the Collingwood family.

*Michael Viljoen and some readers are using the incident to peddle an attack on science, not on racism.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 27 May 2013 1:31:11 PM
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natural conclusion from the evolution fantasy. while appalling it beats me how a 13 year old naive girl can get so much attention. There are a number of times myself and numerous others have been called white * for not giving aboriginals money for grog. This never makes the news. evolutionist really look dumb when trying to explain this one away. With such a fanciful fairytale evolutionist created a logical base for racism. I have always admired Adam Goodes, but really can't understand how being called and ape could affect a person so much. Maybe if he knew he was created in God's image like every other human he would not be so bruised over something so petty.
Posted by runner, Monday, 27 May 2013 1:48:29 PM
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Claims that "Ya big ape" is racist?

Dunno. Seems more of a specious argument to me...
Posted by WmTrevor, Monday, 27 May 2013 2:22:40 PM
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Poor Adam. Our big tough footy player hurt by a little girl so then he clicked his fingers and she was taken away to be re-educated. Boo hoo.
Maybe Mr Goody could direct his attention onto some of the countless little children being abused and neglected by 'his people'. What a sook.
What a load of baloney!
Posted by citizen, Monday, 27 May 2013 2:30:06 PM
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Keep politics out of sport, the AFL is now functioning as an enforcement body for state policy and as is clear from the responses to this incessant Anti Racist yammering the values of the political elite are not the values of the wider community which is still above 90% White European.
When people say they are anti Racist what they really mean is that they are anti White, Anti Racist is just a code word for Anti White.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 27 May 2013 4:37:16 PM
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