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The myth of green Australia : Comments

By John Muscat, published 10/5/2013

But maybe Gore's enthusiasm was a bit misplaced. In September, less than two years later, Australians seem likely, according to the polls, to hand the Gillard Labor government a stinging landslide defeat.

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Poirot

Lol you really do have a sense of humour after all.

Tony Abbott goes to the election promising their will be no Carbon Tax under the government I lead and after the election, becomes the champion of climate change.

Lol that is staright out of the socialist political play book.

He won't have to sell out us Australians to the likes of the Greens like the commie Gillard.He'll have a huge majority and the anti Australian parties will mostly be on the scrap heap for generations to come.

Or

is it possible you are a Tory plant in the green movement now spruiking Tony for PM among the alarmists.

lol. whatever Poirot.
Posted by imajulianutter, Friday, 10 May 2013 12:23:32 PM
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Lol, yerself, imajulainutter,

It wasn't I who made that statement. It was the Opposition's spokesman on climate change.

If you prefer to believe that he's pulling our leg and pouring guff all over the MSM, that's rather telling.

Are you saying that the Opposition's integrity is a mere fiction? spindoc seems to think Tony's so "clever", he's a having a bob each way merely to capture the Green vote.

Now that's a principled politician for you - or do you reckon it's just more of the same old same old? Say what you like irregardless of whether it has any belief or principle attached to it.

If, as it appears, Tony is in for a landslide win, why would he release a statement like that?

Surely, if it's bulldust, it's not necessary.
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 10 May 2013 1:21:58 PM
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Nonsense, regardless of who wins the political battle in terms of seats won, Abbott's degree of pragmatism, essential to any half-decent politician, also reflects his real concern about the environment.

How his govt balances eco and environmental considerations will be an important component of his PM legacy.
Posted by Chris Lewis, Friday, 10 May 2013 1:24:13 PM
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'"Opposition leader Tony Abbott has plans to play a lead role in convincing China and the United States to sign up for a global climate change deal if he wins government. '

Yea Poirot and Rudd/Gillard are fiscal conservatives.

So no doubt now you will be voting for Tony since he has joined the 'enlightened'.
Posted by runner, Friday, 10 May 2013 4:20:02 PM
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Spindoc said:

>"In the meantime the great green revolution crumbles at an accelerated pace, nicely timed to let Abbott off the hook by the time he gets into office."

Some facts that would seem to support that statement:

- As stated in the article, the Australian public has turned strongly against CAGW doomsayer beliefs and against the carbon tax.

- The UK voters recently sent a clear message to the major parties they no longer believe in the doomsayer stuff or wasting money on purported climate policies like wind farms and carbon pricing.

- The EU carbon price has fallen from €25 per tonne CO2 in 2008 to €4 per tonne CO2 in 2013. (At that average rate is will be €0 in 2014.)

- The Chicago Carbon Exchange collapsed and was shut down.

- 20 years of UN climate conferences have achieved virtually nothing (in fact, during that time, the rate of improvement of carbon intensity of the global economy decreased from improving at 2% per year in 1990 to 0.7% per year in 2009 - see Fig 2 here: http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com.au/2010/07/decelerating-decarbonization-of-global.html )
Posted by Peter Lang, Friday, 10 May 2013 5:13:44 PM
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That 's fine with me, runner.

If you're telling me the "principled" Opposition are just spinning me a load of old cobblers to get elected....then I say - "What else is new?"
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 10 May 2013 5:14:30 PM
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