The Islamists have been pursuing the Jews and Christians with murder
since their founding in 642 AD.
They are commanded to do so and it is an obligation.
We have no choice but to resist.
To ignore the threat is to ignore a very long history of the same threat.
Islam is incompatible with democracy which is why no islamic country
is a democracy. Even Indonesia can hardly be called truly democratic.
If in doubt ask the Christians there or the Papuans.

The closest comparison to Islam was Nazism. Hitler also wanted the
elimination of the jews and the Mufti of Jerusalem urged Hitler to
speed up the final solution.

We cannot now walk safely in our own cities without looking warily
at the moslem walking past.
There is no such thing as a "good" moslem because if they oppose the
actions of the militants they are considered to be opposed to Allah
and are to be killed. If they leave Islam they are to be killed.
That the militants don't actually do that here is only a matter of time not of principle.

Bazz, like Greg, your notion of Islam representing an extremist ideology is borne out of ignorance.

Consider the example of The Holy Prophet Muhammad 's Letter to the Monks of St. Catherine in Mt. Sinai . In translation, the text reads as follows:

"This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world)."

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achtiname_of_Muhammad

For a short news item showing the monastery and the covenant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0SsRmC6O5k

Just to add to the previous post, a modern commentary on the Prophet's covenant with the Monk's of St. Catherine by Dr. Muqtedar Khan “Muhammad's promise to Christians”

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2009/12/prophet_muhammads_promise_to_christians.html

Doesn't wash grateful because there are other paragraphs that give
different instructions and it is those that they obey.

There is also a paragraph that says it is permissible to lie to an
infidel if the lie helps Islam.

Never the less for the last 1300 years plus they have been murdering
Jews and Christians and it is no wonder the Jews have had enough.
There have been two major Islamic invasions of Europe and the third is
under way now with the help of the power of their womens' wombs.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Constance, I think the last line in Paul Sheehan's piece is most relevant: "He had found a cause that he could use to rationalise his malevolence." Bad people have used all sorts of things to "justify [their] malevolence" throughout history. Just look at the atrocities carried out in the name of Christ, or some King, or even commerce (which continues today, of course).

Bazz, the Islamic Caliphate was a unifying and civilising force in a region which was fragmented into small tribal groups. It was an Enlightenment creation at a time when Europe was a barbaric cultural desert, under the iron rule of the Roman Church which suppressed any form of social or cultural change, enforcing rigid conformity and the precedence of religion over secular matters. The Caliphate presented a challenge to that and had already created several new technologies that may well have lead to Europe coming under its sway eventually.

So the barbarians from Europe smashed it down, committing atrocity after atrocity in the process and leaving a deep and abiding scar within Islam that has never healed. It created the conditions for fanaticism and zealotry to thrive, fed by resentment and self-serving interpretations of the Quran.

Islam is around 600 years younger than Christianity and has spread further. People have adopted Islam all around the world by choice, including in our immediate North, while Christianity has been spread by force and aggressive proselytising.

Have a think about the state of the Christian world 600 years ago. Do you think that a modern charismatic would find much common ground with a European Catholic, or would they find themselves bound to a stake and burnt as a heretic?

If we want Islam to evolve as Christianity has done, we need to allow it the social and economic means to make it happen. We need to create genuinely educated populations who have enough knowledge to decide that the maddest of the Mullahs are simply wrong.

It's a tragedy that the most aggressively primitively Christian state also happens to be the most powerful by accident of geography.

That is a load of rubbish Antiseptic.
I presume you were referring to the Crusades, and they occurred in an
attempt to stop and reverse the invasion of those territories inhabited
by Jews and Christians by the Islamists from Southern Arabia.

The Islamists are not shy to boast of their intentions and they make it
quite clear that if you do not convert you will either be a slave or dead.

They are not kidding and they mean it.
Slavery is still rampent in moslem countries, ask the Phillipino slaves.

Apologists such as yourself are not doing yourself or your family any favours.
Just watch what is happening in Europe if you do not believe me.

I am aware that making these statements is a bit risky if there is
someone working in a position to trace my ip address.