Divergence

Who's "we"?

Your method of determining what science is, is unscientific. Real science is always about what the data say, never a headcount, never blind faith in a consensus, never groupthink.

An irrational belief system will still be irrational even if people mistakenly believe it has the backing of science, even if technical scientists mistakenly believe it has the backing of science.

You understand, don't you, that science can tell us what the distribution and abundance of species are, but can't tell us what they should be?

It is not lost on me that most of the target audience posting on OLO is made up of the very same humans who are screwing up the oceans, the climate, other animal species, and just about everything else, including their self-created economy. Thus, in all but a few cases, any warnings, insights about human behaviour, descriptions of the science and evidence, and all the rest will inevitably fall on deaf ears.

The essential craziness and hopelessness of the delusion of most posters on this site is not lost on me. But then again, how are we to spend our precious time on Earth? Posting on this blog is my choice.

Now, for the relatively intelligent people who read this site there are two ways to go, you can make it easier, or you can make it harder. If the former, I am grateful. If the latter, congratulations! — you are part of the human mess I go to great lengths to describe.

There are lots of things humans don't do well, or can't do at all. They can't stop killing each other. They can't create and maintain a complex society which doesn't have all sorts of inequality and unfairness built right into it. They can't stop themselves from killing off other species and destroying the ecosystems large & small upon which they depend. They can't stop making babies unless they're also consuming all sorts of stuff. Speaking of stuff, they certainly can't stop themselves from consuming lots of it, given the means and opportunity to do so, etc., etc., etc.

Why climb that mountain? Because it's there! Why screw up the oceans? Because they're there!

Why build a life-like statue to our so called 'gods'? Because we can! We love it, and we're good at it too!

Technology is the hammer, and to humans, everything looks like a nail.

I'm too old to be governed by fear of dumb people and this opinion piece and most of the comments reflect the ignorance and stupidity of our species.

Cohenite:

"Scientific concensus demonstrates global warming has slowed. Many researchers have identified this phenomenon is linked to the heat being absorbed by the world’s oceans."

FACTS:
Global cooling is nonsense. This claim relies on no year has yet been hotter than 1998, an exceptional climate year.

NOAA has scientifically provel all 12 years of the new century rank among the 14 warmest since record-keeping began in 1880. The second-warmest year on record, was 2010. This is not evidence of cooling.

The rate of global warming is less this decade than it has been during the prior quarter century.

Fewer warming El Ninos and cooling La Ninas has adjusted the influence produced in an unbroken pattern of warming.

The heating hiatus is a divergance from the atmosphere into the oceans. A study from the NCAR published in Geophysical Research Letters, found that ocean warming has been accelerating over the last 15 years.

The University of Reading in England states: “Warming over the last decade has been hidden below the ocean surface.” If you take the oceans into account, “global warming has not slowed down.”

The oceans are the planet’s heat sink. More than 90 percent of the heat trapped in the atmosphere by greenhouse gases ends up there. While climate models are good at calculating atmospheric processes, they are poor at plumbing the ocean-atmosphere interactions that determine how fast and how regularly this happens.

Virginie Guemas of the Catalan Institute of Climate Sciences in Barcelona, provides the first “robust” evidence linking ocean uptake of heat directly to recent “temperature plateaus” in the atmosphere.

If natural cycles start pushing towards strong warming, they will add to the continued inexorable upward push from rising concentrations of heat-trapping greenhouse gases. Vis, we would see climate change returning to the rapid pace of the 1990s. Whatever happened to global warming? The odds may be that by 2020 it will have come roaring back.

Cohenite will dispute all of this evidence, unfortunately for him he remains stuck in his denial and the reality of getting stuck in a mantra that discounts evidence despite being a 'lawyer'.

Geoff of Perth

Have you stopped your unequal consumption of natural resources yet?

Too much of everyone else and just enough of you, eh

Cohenite cannot get past reading WUWT a debunked discredited fossil fuel funded web site, as probably he is as well to put up the rubbish he spouts.

“Skeptical Contorption”
– by Horatio Algeranon

Tony Watts is quite contorped
His “analysis” is bent and warped
Twisted into a Möbius loop
And endless train of puppy poop.

AGW is just a nutty cult, that's all. If all the fallacies that comprise its line of reasoning were science, they still wouldn't have justified their normative conclusions.

The fact remains that, quite apart from any issue of climatology, they don't know what the distribution and abundance of species should be, don't know what the temperature of the globe should be, don't know how people value their prospects in the status quo versus their counter-factual, don't know what people values should be, and have no means of calculating whether their own proposed policies can achieve their own aims in terms of the human values they claim to stand for. They are neck-deep in nothing but narcissism and fallacies refuted a hundred times. The rest is their infantile rage at anyone pointing this out.