If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

See no need for this god fellow....

"...all the best intentions in the world often lead to bad outcomes."

I don't doubt Peter Sellick's good intentions, but when we are told:

"This man, Jesus, through his teaching and trial and death and rumoured resurrection is indeed the creator of all things."

though the prior sentence says, "Clearly, this is a long way from the idea that a supernatural being with infinite power brought the universe into being."

So everything prior to Jesus was brought into being by Jesus, who didn't exist, but wasn't a supernatural being?

Sorry, don't get it. I wish I were younger so I could get away with saying WTF.

I think Chinese Philosophy nails this one:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinegar_tasters

Sellick wrote: "Your children who enter a science class, even though they may come from deeply Christian families will be seduced by this proposition. In fact all of secular education makes this assumption. That is why secular universities are so opposed to the teaching of theology, to do so would undermine all disciplines."

I agree. Superstition can undermine reason and often does.

Thank you, diver dan, the bit about the vinegar tasters was most interesting.

It is very clear to me that evolution does not involve everyone equally. My proof?

Well, there are those who are still desperately clinging to superstition and nonsensical primitive beliefs. Billions of them, in fact. They put their faith in what clerics tell them and the conflicting words of ancient manuscripts.

Others, who are obviously are more evolved, are realists who base their life on facts. Unfortunate for the believers, there are no facts which support the claims of any religion. None.

This difference is evolution is huge. The big question is: Will the 'believers' ever catch up?

It appears not, especially if Governments allow advocates of religion to keep bamboozling people in every nation with specious, absurd claims about some mythical world inhabited by spirits and angels!

It is time the whole religious fraud was stopped and religious institutions were closed down.

This is 2013 after all!

'Others, who are obviously are more evolved, are realists who base their life on facts.

David G

you are either naive or deceived.