Good article, well said except I disagree with one thing "Unlike the USA, the UK and Spain we have yet to experience any losses of lives". What about the 88 Australians killed in the Bali Bombing?

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... use nuclear weaponry. We already know that the most extreme Islamic country, Iran, is seeking to so arm itself ...

About the Author

Des Moore ... The views are his own.
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It seems his facts are his own, as well. Unless he knows something that has escaped (for example) the US intelligence community. (See, eg http://warisacrime.org/content/iran-bent-pursuing-nuclear-weapons-says-john-brennan )

What we don't talk about, except in crude terms is the effect of genetics, specifically "structural endogamy" on Islamic immigration:
http://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/structural-endogamy/

We need to look seriously at the ethnic background and geographic origins of prospective "Muslim" immigrants, a family from Islamabad or Beirut may be very different in temperament, intelligence and emotional mobility to a family from Waziristan or the Bekaa Valley.
Wilders talks about the ideology of Islam being a prison for migrants but as we see from the goings on in Western Sydney and North Western Melbourne the more severe restriction on integration is found in genetic relationships. I dispute the idea that stereotypical "clannish" Muslim behaviour is purely ideological because it's most prevalent among the more or less apostate second and third generations.
This is another discussion we need to have but which is being suppressed in the name of "harmony", if we're willing to allow Wilders and sundry seditious Sheikhs to have their say we should be free to explore these issues too.

What a snearing pointless article jeremy links too; it is nothing more than a smear of Tenet and Brennan.

The apologists for Iran claim that Iran isn't pursuing a nuclear weapon program, just a nuclear energy program because Iran doesn't refine its uranium to weapon's grade but to a metallic form that can be used in reactors but can not be refined further.

This is garbage; no such 'metallic' form exists. You can always react it with fluorine, subject it to centrifuge enrichment, and thereby increase the concentration of uranium 235. And since it is a higher grade than what Iran started with, it requires less energy to close the gap to weapon grade.

The idea that Iran, with 40% of the known oil reserves, is pursuing alternative energy is grotesque. Iran is, along with SA, the world's greatest supporter of terrorism and is responsible for Hamas and Hezbollah.

If Iran achieved nuclear weapons there would be no MAD scenario and Cold War stalemate; the reason for this is simple; a MAD scenario requires both parties to be afraid of death; Islam is a completely eschatological ideology with a multitude of fanatics ready to blow themselves up for the cause. The thought that such people could have access to nuclear weaponry should terrify every reasonable person.

Those who justify Iran's nuclear program are either fools or traitors.

...So what now then; weep for the failure of Multiculturalism, since we are now “stuck” with a smelling corpse of failed policy as evidence?

...As I stated in previous posts, “Suck-Eggs” Australia, I have no sympathy whatsoever: But as another article today graphically illustrates, Democracy may be pronounced dead also, along with the death of Multiculturalism: That is two stinking corpses identified.

...What is left of Democracy is a large “void” of social discontent just looking for the “moral way” out of the Liberalism trap sponsored by an abysmal failure of Christianity to lead. Christianity has allowed itself to be morally corrupted; one thing Islam has not done. Islam stands true to its core beliefs against huge odds, and is winning hearts and minds ripe for the taking, (One way or another)!

Cohenite:

...You are such a “Dud” on this subject. Stop and breathe! Here is a quick quiz question: Who is the more reliable and trusted State to hold Nuclear weapons, North Korea, Israel (Wow, here is a loose wheel), Pakistan, India, Iran, etc. The NPT is dead; It’s the new age of the “Nuclear Club”, any state may join, get over it!

...What is more likely is the use of Nuclear “fizzers” (dirty bomb), detonated in your local subway, and not a bomb delivered by missile: In your mind would that be planted by a Muslim by any chance?

...The West is to blame for this state of affairs entirely. It must stop running around the globe picking fights over oil wells, alienating swathes of the global population in the process.

...And try to be nice today..no nit-picking nasty name calling,(unless your a girl of course, in which case go for it)!

Why are such brainless articles ever published? They serve no purpose except to demonise a few people who did not commit anything other than talk - millions of people around the world have protested against us being involved in two illegal and deadly massacre wars of muslims yet here we lock people up if they are muslim and say the same things.

We are more of a threat to muslims here than they ever will be to us and all this sort of tripe does is let the extremist right wing nutters come out to rant.

Sooner or later a Muslim nuclear bomb will explode somewhere in the Western world. Following that, Iran will be wiped off the map - but that will be too late for the 100,000's already dead and their families.

Missiles are a thing of the past. The bomb will likely be delivered in an innocent-looking container, GPS-triggered aboard an ordinary cargo-ship. The most likely target is Israel, but the bomb can in fact land in any sea-port.

The way to minimise the chances that it will be Australia, is not to stop Islam, but instead to encourage Islamic settlement in every major city, close to ports where possible. That's called human shields. Bringing in good, honest and moderate Muslims, both Shiites and Sunnites, keeping them happy and allowing them to build mosques will greatly reduce our chances of being bombed - Muslims have a great aversion to destroying mosques.

Also, having established that Islam is not a religion but a totalitarian political ideology, what's the point in going against the religious aspect of Islam? it would be like trying to catch a snake by its tail!

Besides, those who want to blow us up will not come and tell us "We are Muslims" - they will try to sell us any other story but that.

Observing the Ramadan fast, refraining from alcohol and pork, praying 5 times a day, giving charity and visiting Mecca once in a lifetime are NOT dangerous activities. Even the dreaded genital mutilation (which in the case of females is not even ordained by the Quran) affects only their own family, not the general public.

One thing is clear: alienating the good and moderate Muslims, some already Australian citizens or even born in Australia, by denying them their religion, not only will drive them underground but will turn many good and hard-working people into suicide-bomber martyrs.

In the wrong hands, Western values too can be as totalitarian and violent as their Muslim counterparts. In the right hands, rejection of Western values need not be an endorsement of violence.

What on earth are western values? We don't seem to have any.

"We don't seem to have any."

One important value we have is to allow any fool with a synapse to open their mouth or tap a computer; keep exercising that right Marilyn.

Yuyutsu; utter tripe I'm afraid; muslims kill more muslims than non-muslims do; you could have wall to wall mosques and some other muslim nutter with a different slant will still take them out.

I can't believe what you wrote about female genital mutilation.

Generally, I think if you clowns admire islam so much then you should join up and p... off.

Cohenite, that is complete rot. The US and UK led sanctions against Iraq murdered over 500,000 kids and more than 1 million others have been killed in the US, UK and Australia attack on Iraq.

Hundreds of thousands of Afghans have been slaughtered by us in our other illegal invasion, Israel has murdered tens of thousands of their neighbours in various attacks and so on.

The killing of shi'ites by Saddam Hussein was done while the US sat over the hill and watched, the war on Iran was egged on by the US and so on.

Yet no muslim nation has ever attacked us.

Dear Cohenite,

<<Generally, I think if you clowns admire islam so much then you should join up and p... off.>>

Islam has good principles as well as terrible principles, such as Jihad and male-dominance.

I give credit where it is due and while I am personally satisfied with my own religion, I encourage Muslims to embrace the good aspects of their religion while rejecting the violent aspects thereof.

Yes Islam has it lunatic fringe dwellers but so have the Jews and Christians.

The object of demonising the Muslims was to justify the theft of their oil and resources.That is the truth and reality.There is now absolute scientific proof that the Muslims did not do 911.http://www.ae911truth.org/

Arjay, you got one thing wrong, the US did not invade Iraq for the oil
as they only import a very small percentage of oil from the middle east.
Bet you didn't know that did you ?

Marilyn, it seems you are unaware that the Taliban trained the Bali
bombers in Afghanistan.

We have a threat, not from any particular religion, but from intolerance. On a visit to Istanbul, I noticed that the Hagia Sophia and Sultan Ahmed Complex looked very similar: http://www.tomw.net.au/travel/istanbul.shtml

These places of worship were built for different religions, but they look very similar, being a product of the same place and similar culture and time. In the same way, a group will take a religious text and interpret it to suit their current need. We should not confuse the violent means which some groups practice to further their aims, with a religion they may profess. If we respond by attempting to suppress a particular religion, that will simply play into the hands of such violent groups. A better response is to target the violent groups, while supporting more tolerant forms of religious expression.

I do wish that we could finish one job before starting on another one.
First it was to invade Afghanistan, then before that job was finished it was to invade Iraq because of the weapons of mass destruction. If we do not find these weapons soon maybe the bad guys will find them and use them. What is the problem? Have we been torturing the wrong people to find the weapons? It is important to find the weapons otherwise we have the problem of justifying the killing of a few hundred thousand Iraqis.
We know the weapons must be there because the US president (the one who was given a standing ovation after addressing the joint houses of the Australian parliament) told us they were there.

The New York Times quotes senior officials of the CIA and Mossad as having doubts as to the possibility of Iran trying to make nuclear weapons. Of course newspapers and top security officials can be wrong.
I would urge Des Moore to take his information to ASIO so they can send it on to the CIA and so save us all.

Lots pf interesting comments; some even manage to stay on topic.

The topic is the increasing threat from Ismam. As Geert Wilders points out and as the Q Society shows concern, Islam is a problem. It is a religio-political totalitarian system, which relies on violence in gaining and holding on to power. Power goes to Muslims who are regarded as the master "race" just like the Nazis regarded the "Aryans" as the master race. And in Muslim societies, power holders use violence to suppress power challengers, a trend identified years ago by Price-Jones. Terror is also a tactic endorsed by the founder of the faith; read the Koran. A nuclear weapon in the hands of jihadis would endanger the whole world, especially when such people regard anyone less fanatical than they are as a heretic, hence lawfully killable.

Islam is against Western values of the freedoms conscience, speech, press and the rule of law plus the rule of the majority. The "fringe" in Islam is far larger than in other religious groups and uses violence to gain power. It demands the subject status of non-Muslims and the second rate status of women. We all have good Muslim friends, but they are not much good socially because they fail to speak out publicly against the extermists in their midst as do members of other groups.

Paul2
I thought that for the past 500 years or more it has been the white Christians who have attempted to rule the world by violence. Spain and Portugal invaded south america. Britain etc invaded North america, all the European powers invaded Africa, Britain invaded India, France invaded indo china, the Spanish invaded the Philippines, the Dutch took over some of the East Indies, the Germans too over Papua and some of the other islands, Britain took over Australia and New Zealand. Not any Muslim countries in this lot.

Recently, Islamists were driven from the town of Timbuktu in Mali. In their wake, they left a trail of destruction desecrating graves and ransacking and burning the library of the first university of human history.

Fortunately, 90% of the manuscripts had been smuggled out and most of the manuscripts are in the care of the Ford foundation which has undertaken the task of restoring and recording the library.

These deluded individuals are clearly a threat to civilised society. In the case of Timbuktu, THEIR OWN CIVILISATION. The graves they desecrated were of Muslims scholars and saints! The library that they sought to destroy was Islamic. Clearly they are ignorant of their heritage and the teachings of their religion.

This not a clash of civilisations. It is a clash of ignoramuses.

This is how the university is described in wikipedia:
"The University of Timbuktu was a medieval University in Mali, West Africa which comprised three schools; namely the Masajid of Djinguereber, the Masajid of Sidi Yahya, and the Masajid of Sankore. During its zenith, the university at Timbuktu had an average attendance of around 25,000 students within a city of around 100,000 people. There were four levels within the University curriculum, that included, the "Circle of Knowledge", the "Superior Degree", the "Secondary Degree", and the "Primary Degree". Teachings mostly consisted of Quranic principles; however, literature covering topics of science, mathematics, and medicine,among other disciplines." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Timbuktu

FURTHER INFORMATION:
1. Documentary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4pJTaiev8k

The documentary shows the effort undertaken by Ford Foundation to save archives from the world's first and oldest university in the great city of Timbuktu, the center of knowledge in the 12th century.

2. Desecration and destruction in Timbuktu: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/15/1107127/-Desecration-and-destruction-in-Timbuktu

So Askari, should we just lie down and let them walk all over us ?

There are lots of misconceptions on this thread.
First, the US & other Western powers did not invade Iraq to seize the oil.
It would be much cheaper just to buy it.
They were concerned with reliability of supply.
It was mainly the Europeans that were worried about supply.
They still are and so should we.

Iraq was developing nuclear weapons, I heard & saw Saddam say so.
He obtained devices, including centrifuges. He held up one device that
he said had been banned for export to Iraq. Did not say what it was.
I suspect they had not gone far down the road to a weapon, but the
program was very real.