HASBEEN

If those check-out chicks have any brains then they will
realize that if ever they marry and have children and the husband
starts acting like a lot of men do and don't pull their weight,
then they could very easily end up as single mothers treated
with the contempt that all mothers are treated with in this country.

Why were all those adds run recently on TV trying to
educate men, how to act as fathers. "Don't be a dead-beat dad".
Obviously it is well understood in this country that a lot of
men are not good at being fathers.

People look down their noses at women with children in crowds, they
should also realize that for every single mother,divorced mother
or unwed mother in the crowd there are also the same equivalent
single fathers, divorced fathers and what about all the unwed fathers?
shock! horror! No children clinging to their shirt tails but they
are non-the-less still skulking in the crowd. Acting like all those mothers conceive the children by themselves.

Takes two to tango people.

Jardine K Jardine

So are you saying that men should not support the children
they father. They have 3children with one woman and the next
minute they have another partner and 2children with that woman.

If they are going to practice a kind of serial polygamy
they should realise they have to support all the children, instead
of trying to squirm out of their responsibility to their first
lot of children.

This is the actual problem in this country but it is the women
left holding the babies and being blamed for it.

See what a mess the rest of the world is in, because of male
attitudes, in male dominated societies. They are as thick
as a brick. They have this huge portion of their front brain
that is preoccupied only with sex. When women talk 14 sites
on both side of their brains light up. In men only 4light up.

"So are you saying that men should not support the children
they father. "

No. If you had bothered to read what I said, you would understand that's not what's in issue.

The fact that people exist does not justify the use of force to get what you want.

The rest of what you say is either failing to understand the issue, or deliberately misrepresenting it.

Dear Jardine,

<<Your reasoning is right up until, but excluding, the idea that using money somehow constitutes consent to be defrauded by government manipulating the supply and distribution of money.>>

Yes, I did mention above that the issue is even more complex, that I was barely scratching the surface. I wrote (Thursday, 21 February 2013 4:07:57 PM): "But then it really gets even more complicated still because the Australian government blocks by legislation any possibility of living money-free, so the bottom line is that government is a violent thug based on no morality except "might is right"."

<<People use the government's money because the legal tender laws make it a criminal offence for any other better competitor to supply other better money; and illegal for people to use such other better money. You can't build any theory of consent on that!>>

Yes, this is extremely evil, but two evils do not cancel each other.

You still have the option to disobey the law (both overtly and covertly).
You still have the option to not use money at all.
You still have the option to contribute to others freely, not asking for any currency in return, then if others help you too, you survive, otherwise you incur hardships and may even die, but then you die free!

In nature there are predators. That's what the government is. One option could be to stay up a tree and starve, others choose to disclose to the predator the presence and location of another animal, so it will prey on it instead, allowing you to climb down and forage/drink. That's what have come of us!

Cherful, I'm sure you're right about women talking from 14 sites. I'll bet they are talking a different conversation from each one too.

I'll bet that is the main reason some men do run away, to get away from all that talking.

About the only good thing about mobile phones is the amount of time so many women spend mucking with them. Many blokes can now get a bit of peace.

Oh, did you see the statistics released in the US recently on DNA testing. Apparently 14% of the kids tested were not the progeny of the bloke who was paying for them, & claimed to be the farther.

It appears there is quite a bit of hanky panky going on amongst those ladies, who will use any meal ticket available.

Every time I get a notification that a new comment has been made I come here with a sense of dread. What horrible inhumane comment, or idea is going to be expressed? Where on earth do these people come from? Why are they not able to consider the welfare of another? Where is the humanity?

I hesitate to post for I know that I will only inflame you and give you more reason to express your hatred of another, express your cruelty of mind. But I shall post this link, and I wonder if any of you might open your minds, engage your imaginations to consider the plight of others who do live in our society and who ought to be treated with humanity at the very least.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/old-prejudices-leave-newstart-recipients-cut-adrift-20120824-24r19.htm